[lac-discuss-es] Reflexiones sobre la ELA criterios y expectativas Taskforce

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 Asunto: Re: Reflexiones sobre la ELA criterios y expectativas Taskforce 
 De: carlton.samuels en gmail.com

 Te escucho. Yo también estoy de acuerdo en verdad podríamos categorizar y yo no tienen 
 problema con los que usted ha definido. También podemos estar de acuerdo que una variedad 
 de las motivaciones para servir traerá rendimiento variable. 

 Al igual que usted, la emoción de los viajes aéreos es cosa del pasado para mí también. Hago lo que 
 Debo. Estos días después de 4 días de tiempo transcurrido, por lo general soy listo para ir a casa. 
 Tengo sólo dos viajes de placer que quedan en mí; teniendo que Transiberiano 
 Exprese tren de Moscú a Extremo Oriente ruso y Vladivostok, una caminata 
 a través de Mongolia. Alguien me quiere entregar un beneficio viajes continuación esos son los 
 únicos que contarán! 

 En cuanto a que el tercero grupo que replantear, es realmente molesto es que aparecen, 
 corto en incluso la intención de ayudar en el trabajo pesado. Parafraseo que 
 eminente filósofo Forrest Gump; 'Representantes son como una caja de 
 chocolate, nunca se sabe lo que va a conseguir ".Unos-do-pozos ne'er voluntad 
 conseguir a través de los procesos de nuestro tiempo y otra vez. Veo esto como un precio que pagas 
 voluntarismo; lo que yo llamo los resultados y el desempeño desiguales. 

 Es como el programa de Becas de ICANN. No puedo decirle cuántas Fellows 
 - Algunos de los cuales he recomendado - hemos tratado de participar después de la 
 viaje de confraternidad que simplemente nos ignoran. Para algunos la semana comunión 
 experiencia fue abrumadora; demasiado lleno en día que son demasiado largos. 
 Se preguntan cómo puedo encontrar el tiempo para hacer la ICANN con todos mis otros compromisos 
 y los intereses que saben sobre. Algunos incluso me han preguntado directamente si estoy 
 me paguen "debajo de la mesa '! Pero cosechamos unos pocos para el largo plazo. 
 Una vez más, vamos a manejar las expectativas. Debemos esperar resultados desiguales y 


 Carlton Un Samuels 
 Móvil: 876-818-1799 
 * Estrategia, Planeación, Gobierno, Evaluación y plazos de entrega * 

 El Viernes, 07 de agosto 2015 a las 5:58 de la tarde, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg en mcgill.ca>

> Carlton, I think that there are three distinct categories of people here,
> and we are merging them together.
> 1. There are the dedicated hard workers for whom the travel may or may not
> be a "perk" at some level. I put you and me in that category. I have logged
> close to 2 million flying miles (that is, actual flown miles, not frequent
> flyer miles), and to quote an old song I am fond of "The thrill is a long
> time gone". I find it hard to consider a trip half-way across the world,
> where I may get 6 hours sleep, put in a grueling 7-10 days, and fly out
> again without seeing anything other than a hotel, perhaps 1 or 2
> restaurants and the airport a perk or reward.
> On the other hand, on rare occasions, I do tag some vacation onto an ICANN
> trip and from that perspective, it does add a bit of a personal benefit -
> generally giving me an opportunity to see a place that I might not have
> done on my own.
> 2. There are volunteers who are not among among our heavy lifters (really
> dedicated workers), but want to get involved. They are the ones that our
> GAs and summits should be targeted at. They are at the meetings to learn,
> and try to stay involved after.
> 3. The latter ones come to meetings, perhaps attend some meetings, enjoy
> the local offerings, and go home and forget about us until the next trip.
> THOSE are the ones that I have a real problem with.
> Of course, there are also some who straddle several categories. BUt when
> they go into option 3, I have a problem.
> Alan
> At 07/08/2015 01:55 PM, Carlton Samuels wrote:
> I participated in this morning's call and wanted to level the playing
> field by enunciating some principles and a framework for our discussions.
> Let's start with some principles.
> 1) The At-Large is a volunteer-led and fueled organisation and whatever we
> do MUST be informed by unassailable facts we know of voluntary
> organisations plus the psychology of voluntarism.
> 2) Individuals make the worthwhile contributions, not organisations.
> 3) There is a wide range of motivations for voluntarily contributing and
> these must be fed for sustaining worthwhile contributions
> 4) Results matter but volunteer contributions across the board shall
> always be uneven
> So now, the framework for discussions. There are structural issues as well
> as political issues that must be embraced for any viable solution to
> emerge.  The ICANN/RALO MOU is the source of the first
> structurally-generated challenge.
> While it recognizes individuals as the providers of policy advice, it
> locates individual actions in organisations called ALS. And by so doing
> suggests that value be given to the organisation.  Some RALOs, like NARALO,
> have developed rules that recognize individual contributions but have
> shoehorned valuation for contribution into an ALS structure.  I'm not now
> sure what the answer should be but I know what we now have is not fit to
> purpose and objective.
> Another structural issue.  An individual coming to the ICANN policy
> development ecosystem is going to become a worthwhile contributor by virtue
> of mental acumen, penchant for hard work and time in place. Time in place
> is the common criteria for success.  So current arrangements give extra
> value to experienced volunteers.
> At the same time, new blood is required to sustain the flow of worthwhile
> contributors. Here's the thing. Face-to-Face (f2f) ICANN meetings are the
> best platforms to learn and to become familiarized with this complex beast
> called the ICANN ecosystem.
> The effectiveness of a volunteer in policy development is directly related
> to serial opportunity to participate in ICANN f2f meetings.  It is no
> accident that the most impactful groups in ICANN are a) those that get to
> f2f meetings as 'volunteers' engaged in compensated work b) Those who have
> the wherewithal to self-fund attendance at ICANN f2f meetings.
> The task is to develop a framework that strikes a balance which takes into
> account the need for experienced volunteers with capacity to deliver
> worthwhile contributions even as we build capacity in newer
> less-experienced volunteers to sustain the At-Large participation agenda.
> The current funding model for attendance of At-Large volunteers to ICANN
> f2f meetings assist ALAC representatives, liaisons from ALAC to qualified
> SOs/ACs plus named RALO leadership. This construct seemingly presumes a
> direct line of inheritance from RALO leadership thru ALAC representation.
> We know it is a presumption without merit, especially if worthwhile
> contributions to policy discussions is the objective for the At-Large in
> It is always wrong to think of travel funding to ICANN f2f meeting as a
> benefit to a volunteer!  It is not and cannot be!
> ALAC representation compels attending three (3) f2f meetings per annum.
> They are coincident with the ICANN meetings.  In this context, travel
> funding is purely part of the infrastructural cost to fulfill an
> obligation. Otherwise it is like working for a company that has business
> far removed from my place of domicile and expect performance without
> provisioning the tools that enable that performance.
> It rankles me personally when my contributions in both time and treasure
> to the ICANN enterprise is neither accounted or valorized.  Then insult is
> added to my injury when some goof equates a trip sitting in steerage for
> upwards of 17+ hours [the flight time from Chicago to New Delhi] as a
> benefit!
> I travel by air a lot for work; the miles are now counted in millions. In
> the years I sat as an ALAC member + the incumbent Secretariat for LACRALO
> and as a senior staffer at The University of the West Indies, I contributed
> my vacation time of 3 weeks to ICANN for attending f2f meetings. This does
> not count the average 20+ hours per week I normally dedicate to ICANN
> matters. Nor my personal spend of a minimum of US$500 to attend said
> meetings!  These all contribute to ICANN having a real opportunity to
> record it is indeed multi-stakeholder, is fulfilling its AoC obligations
> and has contributions from end user representatives to its policy
> development.
> Back in time, I was roundly criticised by some of my At-Large colleagues
> for my position in dealing with so-called ALAC 'tourists'.  This matter
> came to the top in India; LACRALO representatives to ALAC were accused of
> abandoning ALAC business for a tour of Indian tourist sites.  This still
> haunts the At-Large in ICANN circles. My firm stand against any sanctions
> or additional criteria applied for travel support funding was interpreted
> as 'protecting' the members accused from sanctions for inattention to
> duty.  That was never my objective and it still is not the case today. I
> just cannot accept the notion that travel funding is a benefit to the
> volunteer. I shall, on principle, oppose any such notion, howsoever derived
> or configured.
> Finally, in the chat we heard talk of a 'reviewer' being appointed. While
> the roles and responsibilities of such a person/actor is not yet outlined,
> let us be clear to ring fence and give specific instructions as to what we
> are trying to achieve here.  We must recognize from principles that
> volunteers give as much as they can to the cause.  The contributions in
> time and treasure of a Olivier Crepin-Leblond or Cheryl Langdon Orr cannot
> be used as a benchmark for either engagement or indeed, worthwhile
> contributions.
> Best,
> -Carlton
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