[lac-discuss-en] ¿Es éste Tiresome 'irregularidad' Contra Large At-Staff

José Ovidio Salgueiro salgueiro.jo at gmail.com
Thu Jul 23 21:51:57 UTC 2015 

Lo que veo es a muchas personas defendiendo al candidatura de Lance Hinds
pero el no aparece para defenderse igual que nunca apareció en una reunión
ni conference call de ALAC en 10 años.

JOS

2015-07-23 17:17 GMT-04:30 <jam at jacquelinemorris.com>:

>
> [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]]
>
>  Asunto: Re: ¿Es éste Tiresome 'irregularidad' Contra Large At-Staff
>  De: jam at jacquelinemorris.com
>
>  Alex, fue el SoI no presentó durante la fase de nominación? Si había una
>  conflicto entonces, por qué no se planteó entonces? ¿Por qué sólo ahora,
> mucho después de la
>  proceso electoral ha terminado, el nombramiento ratificado por el ALAC y
>  anunciado públicamente, de acuerdo con las líneas de tiempo del ALAC?
> Entiendo que
>  algunos podrían ser molesto porque no pagaban cerrar suficiente atención,
> pero yo sí
>  no veo ninguna justificación para todo el proceso que se deshace.
>  No había problema con el proceso electoral de todo el correo electrónico
> que tengo
>  leer. Era justo y correcto y salió de acuerdo a todas las normas y
>  reglamentos. Para tratar de subvertir ahora porque no te gusta el
>  resultado es muy mala gobernanza y una traición a los principios
> democráticos.
>  Si hay un problema, a continuación, pruebe a utilizar un proceso de
> recuperación si es que existe, pero
>  por favor no atornillar con la integridad del proceso electoral.
>  Estoy particularmente apasionado sobre esto, ya que actualmente estoy
> trabajando para nuestra
>  Nacional de Elecciones, y hay el mismo tipo de actividades que se
> realizan -
>  estamos en un grupo de vigilancia para mantener el proceso democrático
> transparente y justo. YO
>  no puede sentarse y observar cómo se sobornó en LACRALO.
>  Jacqueline
>
>
>  Jacqueline A. Morris
>  La tecnología debe ser como el oxígeno: Ubicuo, necesario, invisible y
>  Gratis. (Después de que Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> )
>
>
>  El Jue, 23 de julio 2015 a las 5:20 de la tarde, el Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
> Baruch &lt;
>  apisan at unam.mx&gt; escribió:
>
>
> >  Carlton,
> >
> >
> >  The issue is very simple. A number of us find an irreconcilable conflict
> > of interest in Lance Hinds's SoI. This is apparent only once the election
> > was in course.
> >
> >  Simple. No rhetoric needed.
> >
> >  Alejandro Pisanty
> >
> >
> >  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >      Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
> > Facultad de Química UNAM
> > Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
> >
> >
> >
> > +52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD
> >
> > +525541444475 DESDE MÉXICO SMS +525541444475
> > Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com
> > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty
> > Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn,
> > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614
> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty
> > ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org
> > .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
> >   ------------------------------
> > *Desde:* lac-discuss-en-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [
> > lac-discuss-en-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] en nombre de Carlton
> > Samuels [carlton.samuels at gmail.com]
> > *Enviado el:* jueves, 23 de julio de 2015 16:03
> > *Hasta:* lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > *CC:* Albert Daniels
> > *Asunto:* [lac-discuss-en] This Tiresome 'Irregularity' Claim Against
> > At-Large Staff
> >
> >    I am trying to live a long and useful life. Engagement with LACRALO is
> > debilitating.
> >
> >  I am not communicant - I gave it up since I was 14 years old - so cannot
> > depend on a 'good' God for my salvation. So for objective, I do what I
> must
> > by avoiding vexations to my spirit.
> >
> >  But the bullshit - I hope the word translates well to Spanish - is just
> > too much and I must break my silence.
> >
> >  In case the translation gets mangled, here is what I mean by bullshit:
> >
> >   Definitions of bullshit
> >   noun
> >  stupid or untrue talk or writing; nonsense.
> >  verb
> >  talk nonsense to (someone), typically to be misleading or deceptive.
> >
> >
> >     ​It is misleading, even dishonest, to allege misconduct by At-Large
> > staff in this instance and I will tell you why.
> >
> >  Jacqueline has already pithily outlined the classic case but I will
> > repeat it here for effect.
> >
> >  In parts of the world where rules for [s]elections are established and
> > where this exercise of democracy is routine, a candidate satisfying all
> > other criteria and nominated for a position unopposed is duly
> [s]elected. ​
> >
> >  But this is LACRALO where our collective understanding of the process
> > is, well, let me be generous and say uneven, at best.
> >
> >  We simply don't understand that you cannot disavow or subvert the
> > nomination portion of the process without calling the entire [s]election
> > process into question.
> >
> >  So, we walk extra miles to give those who don't understand time to come
> > along, slowly.  That is the basis for the consensus poll - notice it is a
> > poll - and why we in the Caribbean bothered to go along with that in the
> > first place!
> >
> >  As At-Large staff would have told all of you, this is not the same for
> > other RALOs. They have matured in both thought and action.
> >
> >  Why does this bother me, you ask? Because it gets old and tiresome after
> > trying for so long. And since it vexes my spirit, I run the real risk of
> > reducing my life and its quality the longer I caucus here.
> >
> >  Now, to the hypocrites.  I ask your forgiveness for not being a good
> > Christian. I simply detest hypocrisy.
> >
> >  In the selection for a NomCom candidate this year, our esteemed
> > colleague from Brazil and incumbent, Sylvia Leite Herlein, was nominated
> > unopposed.  I enthusiastically supported her candidacy, not just only for
> > the fact she had performed in the post. But I truly believe that a single
> > 1-year term does not give the region the benefit of her service and
> > expertise nor allow the region to build the influence we need in very
> > important ICANN councils.
> >
> >  I personally discouraged - yes, discouraged - other nominations to muddy
> > the path to her re-selection. We went along with Jacqueline Morris being
> > de-selected after a single year. Maybe that was the wrong thing to do
> then.
> >
> >  With Sylvia's unopposed [s]election, no consensus poll took place.  And
> > the At-Large staff notified the world in the same way as they did for
> Lance
> > Hinds.
> >
> >  It was not that we in the Caribbean did not notice. Rather, it is
> > because we have never felt any such poll was necessary in the first
> place.
> >
> >  Contrast then to now. There was not a whimper of complaint from our now
> > erstwhile friends of LACRALO propriety, not one allegation of
> 'impropriety'
> > raised!
> >
> >  So now, I ask you, what is the difference here? We can either assume the
> > guardians of LACRALO propriety were off busily thumb-sucking, even asleep
> > at the switch.
> >
> >  Or, in this case for Lance Hinds nomination and selection, other
> > operating conditions are applied.
> >
> >  Go figure.
> >
> >  -Carlton Samuels
> >
> >  ==============================
> >  Carlton A Samuels
> > Mobile: 876-818-1799
> > *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround*
> > =============================
> >
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