<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Lo que veo es a muchas personas defendiendo al candidatura de Lance Hinds pero el no aparece para defenderse igual que nunca apareció en una reunión ni conference call de ALAC en 10 años. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">JOS</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-07-23 17:17 GMT-04:30 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jam@jacquelinemorris.com" target="_blank">jam@jacquelinemorris.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><br>
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Asunto: Re: ¿Es éste Tiresome 'irregularidad' Contra Large At-Staff<br>
</span> De: <a href="mailto:jam@jacquelinemorris.com">jam@jacquelinemorris.com</a><br>
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Alex, fue el SoI no presentó durante la fase de nominación? Si había una<br>
conflicto entonces, por qué no se planteó entonces? ¿Por qué sólo ahora, mucho después de la<br>
proceso electoral ha terminado, el nombramiento ratificado por el ALAC y<br>
anunciado públicamente, de acuerdo con las líneas de tiempo del ALAC? Entiendo que<br>
algunos podrían ser molesto porque no pagaban cerrar suficiente atención, pero yo sí<br>
no veo ninguna justificación para todo el proceso que se deshace.<br>
No había problema con el proceso electoral de todo el correo electrónico que tengo<br>
leer. Era justo y correcto y salió de acuerdo a todas las normas y<br>
reglamentos. Para tratar de subvertir ahora porque no te gusta el<br>
resultado es muy mala gobernanza y una traición a los principios democráticos.<br>
Si hay un problema, a continuación, pruebe a utilizar un proceso de recuperación si es que existe, pero<br>
por favor no atornillar con la integridad del proceso electoral.<br>
Estoy particularmente apasionado sobre esto, ya que actualmente estoy trabajando para nuestra<br>
Nacional de Elecciones, y hay el mismo tipo de actividades que se realizan -<br>
estamos en un grupo de vigilancia para mantener el proceso democrático transparente y justo. YO<br>
no puede sentarse y observar cómo se sobornó en LACRALO.<br>
Jacqueline<br>
<br>
<br>
Jacqueline A. Morris<br>
La tecnología debe ser como el oxígeno: Ubicuo, necesario, invisible y<br>
Gratis. (Después de que Chris Lehmann <<a href="http://twitter.com/chrislehmann" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/chrislehmann</a>> )<br>
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El Jue, 23 de julio 2015 a las 5:20 de la tarde, el Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch &lt;<br>
<div><div class="h5"> <a href="mailto:apisan@unam.mx">apisan@unam.mx</a>&gt; escribió:<br>
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> Carlton,<br>
><br>
><br>
> The issue is very simple. A number of us find an irreconcilable conflict<br>
> of interest in Lance Hinds's SoI. This is apparent only once the election<br>
> was in course.<br>
><br>
> Simple. No rhetoric needed.<br>
><br>
> Alejandro Pisanty<br>
><br>
><br>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br>
> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty<br>
> Facultad de QuÃmica UNAM<br>
> Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> <a href="tel:%2B52-1-5541444475" value="+5215541444475">+52-1-5541444475</a> FROM ABROAD<br>
><br>
> <a href="tel:%2B525541444475" value="+525541444475">+525541444475</a> DESDE MÉXICO SMS <a href="tel:%2B525541444475" value="+525541444475">+525541444475</a><br>
> Blog: <a href="http://pisanty.blogspot.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://pisanty.blogspot.com</a><br>
> LinkedIn: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty</a><br>
> Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn,<br>
> <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614</a><br>
> Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/apisanty" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/apisanty</a><br>
> ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, <a href="http://www.isoc.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.isoc.org</a><br>
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .<br>
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> *Desde:* <a href="mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org">lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a> [<br>
> <a href="mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org">lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>] en nombre de Carlton<br>
> Samuels [<a href="mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com">carlton.samuels@gmail.com</a>]<br>
> *Enviado el:* jueves, 23 de julio de 2015 16:03<br>
> *Hasta:* <a href="mailto:lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org">lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br>
> *CC:* Albert Daniels<br>
> *Asunto:* [lac-discuss-en] This Tiresome 'Irregularity' Claim Against<br>
> At-Large Staff<br>
><br>
> I am trying to live a long and useful life. Engagement with LACRALO is<br>
> debilitating.<br>
><br>
> I am not communicant - I gave it up since I was 14 years old - so cannot<br>
> depend on a 'good' God for my salvation. So for objective, I do what I must<br>
> by avoiding vexations to my spirit.<br>
><br>
> But the bullshit - I hope the word translates well to Spanish - is just<br>
> too much and I must break my silence.<br>
><br>
> In case the translation gets mangled, here is what I mean by bullshit:<br>
><br>
> Definitions of bullshit<br>
> noun<br>
> stupid or untrue talk or writing; nonsense.<br>
> verb<br>
> talk nonsense to (someone), typically to be misleading or deceptive.<br>
><br>
><br>
> ​It is misleading, even dishonest, to allege misconduct by At-Large<br>
> staff in this instance and I will tell you why.<br>
><br>
> Jacqueline has already pithily outlined the classic case but I will<br>
> repeat it here for effect.<br>
><br>
> In parts of the world where rules for [s]elections are established and<br>
> where this exercise of democracy is routine, a candidate satisfying all<br>
> other criteria and nominated for a position unopposed is duly [s]elected. ​<br>
><br>
> But this is LACRALO where our collective understanding of the process<br>
> is, well, let me be generous and say uneven, at best.<br>
><br>
> We simply don't understand that you cannot disavow or subvert the<br>
> nomination portion of the process without calling the entire [s]election<br>
> process into question.<br>
><br>
> So, we walk extra miles to give those who don't understand time to come<br>
> along, slowly. That is the basis for the consensus poll - notice it is a<br>
> poll - and why we in the Caribbean bothered to go along with that in the<br>
> first place!<br>
><br>
> As At-Large staff would have told all of you, this is not the same for<br>
> other RALOs. They have matured in both thought and action.<br>
><br>
> Why does this bother me, you ask? Because it gets old and tiresome after<br>
> trying for so long. And since it vexes my spirit, I run the real risk of<br>
> reducing my life and its quality the longer I caucus here.<br>
><br>
> Now, to the hypocrites. I ask your forgiveness for not being a good<br>
> Christian. I simply detest hypocrisy.<br>
><br>
> In the selection for a NomCom candidate this year, our esteemed<br>
> colleague from Brazil and incumbent, Sylvia Leite Herlein, was nominated<br>
> unopposed. I enthusiastically supported her candidacy, not just only for<br>
> the fact she had performed in the post. But I truly believe that a single<br>
> 1-year term does not give the region the benefit of her service and<br>
> expertise nor allow the region to build the influence we need in very<br>
> important ICANN councils.<br>
><br>
> I personally discouraged - yes, discouraged - other nominations to muddy<br>
> the path to her re-selection. We went along with Jacqueline Morris being<br>
> de-selected after a single year. Maybe that was the wrong thing to do then.<br>
><br>
> With Sylvia's unopposed [s]election, no consensus poll took place. And<br>
> the At-Large staff notified the world in the same way as they did for Lance<br>
> Hinds.<br>
><br>
> It was not that we in the Caribbean did not notice. Rather, it is<br>
> because we have never felt any such poll was necessary in the first place.<br>
><br>
> Contrast then to now. There was not a whimper of complaint from our now<br>
> erstwhile friends of LACRALO propriety, not one allegation of 'impropriety'<br>
> raised!<br>
><br>
> So now, I ask you, what is the difference here? We can either assume the<br>
> guardians of LACRALO propriety were off busily thumb-sucking, even asleep<br>
> at the switch.<br>
><br>
> Or, in this case for Lance Hinds nomination and selection, other<br>
> operating conditions are applied.<br>
><br>
> Go figure.<br>
><br>
> -Carlton Samuels<br>
><br>
> ==============================<br>
> Carlton A Samuels<br>
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