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salgueiro.jo at gmail.com salgueiro.jo at gmail.com
Thu Jul 23 21:52:55 UTC 2015 

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 From: salgueiro.jo at gmail.com

 What I see is many people defending the candidacy of Lance Hinds 
 but he does not appear to defend like never appeared in a meeting 
 ALAC conference call or in 10 years. 


 JOS 


 07/23/2015 17:17 GMT-04: 30 <jam at jacquelinemorris.com> : 
 > 
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>
>  Asunto: Re: ¿Es éste Tiresome 'irregularidad' Contra Large At-Staff
>  De: jam at jacquelinemorris.com
>
>  Alex, fue el SoI no presentó durante la fase de nominación? Si había una
>  conflicto entonces, por qué no se planteó entonces? ¿Por qué sólo ahora,
> mucho después de la
>  proceso electoral ha terminado, el nombramiento ratificado por el ALAC y
>  anunciado públicamente, de acuerdo con las líneas de tiempo del ALAC?
> Entiendo que
>  algunos podrían ser molesto porque no pagaban cerrar suficiente atención,
> pero yo sí
>  no veo ninguna justificación para todo el proceso que se deshace.
>  No había problema con el proceso electoral de todo el correo electrónico
> que tengo
>  leer. Era justo y correcto y salió de acuerdo a todas las normas y
>  reglamentos. Para tratar de subvertir ahora porque no te gusta el
>  resultado es muy mala gobernanza y una traición a los principios
> democráticos.
>  Si hay un problema, a continuación, pruebe a utilizar un proceso de
> recuperación si es que existe, pero
>  por favor no atornillar con la integridad del proceso electoral.
>  Estoy particularmente apasionado sobre esto, ya que actualmente estoy
> trabajando para nuestra
>  Nacional de Elecciones, y hay el mismo tipo de actividades que se
> realizan -
>  estamos en un grupo de vigilancia para mantener el proceso democrático
> transparente y justo. YO
>  no puede sentarse y observar cómo se sobornó en LACRALO.
>  Jacqueline
>
>
>  Jacqueline A. Morris
>  La tecnología debe ser como el oxígeno: Ubicuo, necesario, invisible y
>  Gratis. (Después de que Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> )
>
>
>  El Jue, 23 de julio 2015 a las 5:20 de la tarde, el Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
> Baruch &lt;
>  apisan at unam.mx&gt; escribió:
>
>
> >  Carlton,
> >
> >
> >  The issue is very simple. A number of us find an irreconcilable conflict
> > of interest in Lance Hinds's SoI. This is apparent only once the election
> > was in course.
> >
> >  Simple. No rhetoric needed.
> >
> >  Alejandro Pisanty
> >
> >
> >  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >      Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
> > Facultad de Química UNAM
> > Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
> >
> >
> >
> > +52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD
> >
> > +525541444475 DESDE MÉXICO SMS +525541444475
> > Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com
> > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty
> > Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn,
> > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614
> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty
> > ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org
> > .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
> >   ------------------------------
> > *Desde:* lac-discuss-en-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [
> > lac-discuss-en-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] en nombre de Carlton
> > Samuels [carlton.samuels at gmail.com]
> > *Enviado el:* jueves, 23 de julio de 2015 16:03
> > *Hasta:* lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > *CC:* Albert Daniels
> > *Asunto:* [lac-discuss-en] This Tiresome 'Irregularity' Claim Against
> > At-Large Staff
> >
> >    I am trying to live a long and useful life. Engagement with LACRALO is
> > debilitating.
> >
> >  I am not communicant - I gave it up since I was 14 years old - so cannot
> > depend on a 'good' God for my salvation. So for objective, I do what I
> must
> > by avoiding vexations to my spirit.
> >
> >  But the bullshit - I hope the word translates well to Spanish - is just
> > too much and I must break my silence.
> >
> >  In case the translation gets mangled, here is what I mean by bullshit:
> >
> >   Definitions of bullshit
> >   noun
> >  stupid or untrue talk or writing; nonsense.
> >  verb
> >  talk nonsense to (someone), typically to be misleading or deceptive.
> >
> >
> >     ​It is misleading, even dishonest, to allege misconduct by At-Large
> > staff in this instance and I will tell you why.
> >
> >  Jacqueline has already pithily outlined the classic case but I will
> > repeat it here for effect.
> >
> >  In parts of the world where rules for [s]elections are established and
> > where this exercise of democracy is routine, a candidate satisfying all
> > other criteria and nominated for a position unopposed is duly
> [s]elected. ​
> >
> >  But this is LACRALO where our collective understanding of the process
> > is, well, let me be generous and say uneven, at best.
> >
> >  We simply don't understand that you cannot disavow or subvert the
> > nomination portion of the process without calling the entire [s]election
> > process into question.
> >
> >  So, we walk extra miles to give those who don't understand time to come
> > along, slowly.  That is the basis for the consensus poll - notice it is a
> > poll - and why we in the Caribbean bothered to go along with that in the
> > first place!
> >
> >  As At-Large staff would have told all of you, this is not the same for
> > other RALOs. They have matured in both thought and action.
> >
> >  Why does this bother me, you ask? Because it gets old and tiresome after
> > trying for so long. And since it vexes my spirit, I run the real risk of
> > reducing my life and its quality the longer I caucus here.
> >
> >  Now, to the hypocrites.  I ask your forgiveness for not being a good
> > Christian. I simply detest hypocrisy.
> >
> >  In the selection for a NomCom candidate this year, our esteemed
> > colleague from Brazil and incumbent, Sylvia Leite Herlein, was nominated
> > unopposed.  I enthusiastically supported her candidacy, not just only for
> > the fact she had performed in the post. But I truly believe that a single
> > 1-year term does not give the region the benefit of her service and
> > expertise nor allow the region to build the influence we need in very
> > important ICANN councils.
> >
> >  I personally discouraged - yes, discouraged - other nominations to muddy
> > the path to her re-selection. We went along with Jacqueline Morris being
> > de-selected after a single year. Maybe that was the wrong thing to do
> then.
> >
> >  With Sylvia's unopposed [s]election, no consensus poll took place.  And
> > the At-Large staff notified the world in the same way as they did for
> Lance
> > Hinds.
> >
> >  It was not that we in the Caribbean did not notice. Rather, it is
> > because we have never felt any such poll was necessary in the first
> place.
> >
> >  Contrast then to now. There was not a whimper of complaint from our now
> > erstwhile friends of LACRALO propriety, not one allegation of
> 'impropriety'
> > raised!
> >
> >  So now, I ask you, what is the difference here? We can either assume the
> > guardians of LACRALO propriety were off busily thumb-sucking, even asleep
> > at the switch.
> >
> >  Or, in this case for Lance Hinds nomination and selection, other
> > operating conditions are applied.
> >
> >  Go figure.
> >
> >  -Carlton Samuels
> >
> >  ==============================
> >  Carlton A Samuels
> > Mobile: 876-818-1799
> > *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround*
> > =============================
> >
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