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asoto at ibero-americano.org
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From: asoto at ibero-americano.org
Thanks for your excellent contribution Ftima. Just add it to the wiki.
To all, I ask you to please do everything to Travs wiki. If the
wiki did not exist, and now sb member wishes to join the
discussion must search all previous messages and then do it.
In the wiki you can follow the whole thread ningn without losing detail. In the same
was already established no need for statutes legally approved
local authority.
Best Regards
Alberto Soto
From: Fatima Cambronero [mailto: fatimacambronero at gmail.com]
Posted on: Wednesdays, September 24, 2014 8:55 pm
To: Silvia Vivanco
CC: JosFrancisco Arce; Alberto Soto; ICANN At-Large Staff; LACRALO Espaol
Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Communication from ACUI on request
Colombia Internauta HELP RULES INTERPRETATION OF VIEW ATTACHMENT
Dear / os,
Silvia, thank you very much for your intentions in this work with LACRALO
estllevando discussion below that.
However, unfortunately, the information you share to us is not
correct.
ALAC has amended its rules of procedure last year. Rules
ALAC procedure are valid April 2013 and can be found
this link:
https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2262672/ALAC%2BRoP-06April2
013.pdf? Version = 1
< https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2262672/ALAC%2BRoP-06April
2013.pdf? Version = 1 & modificationDate = 1378914284000 & api = v2>
& ModificationDate = 1378914284000 & api = v2
These rules on the number 15 dealing with At-Large Structures and envan
the Annex on the "Framework for At-Large Structures".
The link to the Framework of the ALS is Annex 4 and is in this
link
https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2262672/Adjunct-04-ALS-Fram
eWork-For-19Jun2013% 20Approval.pdf? version = 1
< https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/2262672/Adjunct-04-ALS-Fra
mework-For-19Jun2013% 20Approval.pdf? version = 1 & modificationDate = 1372720787000
& Api = v2> = 1372720787000 & modificationDate & api = v2
This framework sets out the requirements for consituirse as ALS and
procedure to be performed for such Accreditation (including
steps that must comply with the organization, the Secretariat of the THIN and Staff
At-Large, which is what makes the Due Diligence).
In the section on Minimum Requirements for ALS, ALAC in this
modificacina its rules, eliminated the point relative to the NO need
that ESTN organizations applying to be certified as ALS
ESTN legally constituted.
That is, now ALAC rules say nothing about whether a
organization you want to be credited as ALS must be incorporated
legally or not.Therefore, it is clear that neither can LACRALO
require it as a mandatory requirement that the organization is
legally constituted.
I also think it is important to note that the rules of procedure
ALAC, any of its points shows that ALAC shall follow
the regional council. In practice, whenever an application
organization that claims to be accredited as ALS, or regional council has
not carried out an in ALAC Voting to certify or not the
organization as ALS. And something important about it and that is
ALAC now discussing: the feedback of ALAC in these
cases are joint-stock. You can not know if a member of ALAC votpara
or not to accredit the organization. Some members are not ALAC
According to asy remains that we have spoken in favor of
feedback on how votcada know ALAC member in these cases.
This still has not been resolved and the reunin of seguirdiscutiendo
ICANN Los Angeles.
Now on this particular case we are analyzing, I liked
Antonio ask that you please explaye and to explain the situation
regarding the use of the name you mentioned, so then more
the THIN information you can give your regional council. Thanks in advance,
Antonio.
Silvia, a query on this confusion of rules
ALAC procedure in force, the due dilligence of ltimas
organizations applying for accreditation as ALS, there has been
based on the rules of 2013, right?
Thank you very much.
Best Regards,
Fatima Cambronero
The September 24, 2014, 19:38, Silvia Vivanco <silvia.vivanco at icann.org
<mailto:silvia.vivanco at icann.org> > I wrote:
Dear members of LACRALO
Please see the document below. I have attached the version in English.
ALAC / 2007 / SD / 2.Rev7. DATE: 23rd July 2007
Second Criterion
The second criterion, as Agreed With the board, is in black text AS FOLLOWS:
2 Be Constituted So THAT Individual participation by Internet users who are
Citizens or residents of countries Within the Geographic Region in Which the
ALS is based will predominate in the ALS 'operation. The ALS May permit
additional participation by others That is Compatible with the interests of
Within the Individual Internet users the region.
The guidelines for evaluation of whether or not an Applicant fulfils This
criterion are as Follows.
Guidelines Relevant to All Applicants:
1 There is no requirement That an organization be legally Constituted, or
Otherwise, or of any special structure, excepting as provided Otherwise
In These Guidelines.
I hope this document will help them clarify doubts.
Best Regards
Silvia
Silvia Vivanco
Manager, At Large Regional Affairs
ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org><http://www.icann.org>
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From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
<mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
[Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
<mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> ] On Behalf Of Jos
Francisco Arce
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 5:03 PM
To: Alberto Soto
Cc: LACRALO Espaol
Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Communication from ACUI on request
Internauta Colombia
Dear,
My opinion:
I think Antonio does not object. It only rhetorically asked whether being
constiruido is legally necessary and sufficient condition to prove.
Amen to have some that are not, I think should be discussed and
analyzed in the region we want now and for the future.
I think we should view the particular case, but that would be nice
formality exists.
Antonio Thanks for taking the trouble to find in organisms
relating this information.
Greetings
Jose
Sep 24, 2014 6:48 PM, "Alberto Soto" <asoto at ibero-americano.org
<mailto:asoto at ibero-americano.org><mailto:asoto at ibero-americano.org
<mailto:asoto at ibero-americano.org> >>
I wrote:
> Es lo que le estoy pidiendo a Antonio.
> Saludos cordiales
>
> Alberto Soto
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch [mailto:apisan at unam.mx
> miércoles, 24 de septiembre de 2014 06:51 p.m.
> Para: Alberto Soto; 'Antonio Medina Gómez'; 'LACRALO Español';
> 'Humberto Carrasco'
> Asunto: RE: [lac-discuss-es] Comunicación de ACUI sobre la solicitud
> de Internauta Colombia
>
> Alberto, Antonio,
>
> pero a ver... entendamos qué nos dice Antonio primero. ¿Está objetando
> la acreditación de "Internauta Colombia"?
>
> Alejandro Pisanty
>
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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> Facultad de Química UNAM
> Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
>
>
>
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>
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>
> ________________________________________
> Desde: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
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<mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> >
> [lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
Alberto
> Soto [asoto at ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto at ibero-americano.org> ]
> septiembre de
> 2014
> 16:22
> Hasta: 'Antonio Medina Gómez'; 'LACRALO Español'; 'Humberto Carrasco'
> Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Comunicación de ACUI sobre la solicitud de
> Internauta Colombia
>
> Estimado Antonio, te pido por favor coloques esto en la wiki, a fin de
> seguir el hilo de la misma.
>
> Muchas gracias
>
>
>
> Alberto soto
>
>
>
> De: Antonio Medina Gómez [mailto:amedinagomez at gmail.com
> miércoles, 24 de septiembre de 2014 02:32 p.m.
> Para: LACRALO Español; Humberto Carrasco; Alberto Soto
> Asunto: Comunicación de ACUI sobre la solicitud de Internauta Colombia
>
>
>
> El 7 de septiembre el Secretario de Lacralo, Humberto Carrasco envio a
> la lista un mensaje denominado "[lac-discuss-es] Consejo Regional
> respecto de solicitud para ALS 209 Internauta Colombia / Regional
> Advice needed ALS Application 209 Internauta Colombia", el cual
> direcciona a lo publicado en el link
> https://community.icann.org/display/LACRALO/Internauta+Colombia
>
>
>
> De la aplicación presentada hemos revisado el siguiente link
> http://internautacolombia.org/web/spip.php?article15
>
>
>
> Transcribo lo siguiente:
>
>
>
>
> Estatutos
>
>
> ACTA DE LA ASAMBLEA DE CONSTITUCIÓN
> DEL
> "INTERNAUTA COLOMBIA, ASOCIACIÓN COLOMBIANA DE USUARIOS DE INTERNET",
> COLOMBIA
>
> En la ciudad de Bogotá, siendo las nueve (9) a.m., del día tres (3),
> del mes de Marzo, del año 2014, se reunieron las personas que mas
> adelante se relacionan en la lista de constituyentes, con el fin de
> constituir el "INTERNAUTA COLOMBIA, ASOCIACIÓN COLOMBIANA DE USUARIOS
> DE INTERNET", COLOMBIA, persona jurídica bajo la forma de asociación
> de carácter privado, sin ánimo de lucro.
>
> De acuerdo con lo anterior me permito manifestar a los miembros de
> Lacralo, que la "Asociación Colombiana de Usuarios de Internet" es una
> Marca registrada por la Asociación Colombiana de Usuarios de
> Internet, con sigla ACUI, ante la Superintendencia de Industria y
> Comercio, Entidad Gubernamental en Colombia de proteger los derechos de
> www.sic.gov.co <http://www.sic.gov.co> <http://www.sic.gov.co>
>
> La normatividad al respecto, esta orientada a evitar la utilización de
> nombres que generen competencia o confusiones entre los consumidores,
> que adquieren un producto o servicio, ofrecidos por una organización
> de la cual estaban seguros era la de su total confianza.
>
> Con el propósito de dejar constancia sobre las nuevas organizaciones
> que desean participar en el desarrollo de la región, pero que
> lamentablemente nos pueden afectar, solicito a quienes les
> corresponde, por su cargo, tomar las medidas oportunas y necesarias
> relacionadas con el uso de la marca "Asociación Colombiana de Usuarios de
>
> Quiero agregar que:
>
> En Colombia las entidades deben cumplir con unos trámites de carácter
> normativo y legal que deben realizar rigurosamente:
>
> Registro ante la Cámara de Comercio de su jurisdicción, que imagino es
> este caso en particular se debe realizar en la CCB de la ciudad de
> Bogotá
>
> Registro ante la DIAN para efectos tributarios
>
> Obtener el Registro Unico Tributario y el NIT
>
> Inscripción ante la autoridad respectiva para su vigilancia y control.
>
> Con el propósito de hacer seguimiento a la solicitud de Internauta
> Colombia solicitamos en varias oportunidades a la Cámara de Comercio
> de Bogotá el respectivo certificado de existencia y representación
> legal de esta organización y no aparece ningún registro en la Cámara
> de Comercio de Bogotá de la organización Internauta Colombia, la cual
> esta presentando aplicación para ser parte de las ALS acreditadas en
> Lacralo.
>
> Agradezco a ustedes sus comentarios al respecto y dejo constancia, con
> el propósito de construir confianza en Lacralo, basadas en el respeto,
> elemento esencial que hace parte de la transparencia que defendemos.
>
> Respecto a la solicitud de Internauta Colombia, le corresponde a las
> instancias correspondientes evaluar esta información para evaluar y
> dar trámite normal a la solicitud presentada.
>
> Atentamente,
>
>
>
> Antonio Medina Gómez
>
> Presidente
>
> Asociación Colombiana de Usuarios de Internet, ACUI
>
> presidencia at acui.co <mailto:presidencia at acui.co>
<mailto:presidencia at acui.co <mailto:presidencia at acui.co> >
>
> @amedinagomez
>
> Skype amedinagomez
>
> Celular 3118689626
>
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