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Thu Nov 15 16:10:53 UTC 2012 

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 From: jumaropi at yahoo.com

 Hi Fatima, Natalie and Jose, 
 Very good to have a statement LACRALO. 


 I only corrected some things according to the texts and suggested sending the call corrected texts. 


 In this paragraph: 
 "In the current system (...) since each one and a half 
 meetings are held approximately in the region of Latin America and 
 Caribbean. With the proposed consolidation strategy, inthe region meetings would be held every three years affected the equity in the rotation 
 regional, as members of the local community should expect more 
 time to have a chance to participate personally in these 
 meetings. This is a very long life cycle taking into account that 
 Officers of the main mandates of our region have a duration


 one and two years. 
 ' 


 I suggest reads: 
 "(...) Because about every year 
 and a half meetings are held in the region of Latin America and Caribbean. "(...) 
 "With the 
 proposed consolidation strategy, our meetings in the region would be held every three years affected 
 equality in the rotation 
 regional. A relevant fact is that members 
 of our local communities will have to wait longer to have involved 
 such meetings personally. " 


 Mainly the change has to do with the word equity. If we check their meanings, almost no sense to apply what we mean. 
 According to the Dictionary of the Royal Spanish Academy of Language means: 
 1. f. Equanimity. 
 2. f. Temperance Benevolent usual. Propensity to be guided, or failure, of a sense of duty or conscience, rather than by the strict requirements of the law or by the final text of the law. 
 3. f. Natural justice, as opposed to the letter of the positive law. 
 4. f.Moderation in the price of things, or the conditions of the contracts. 
 5. f. Disposition of the mind which moves to give everyone what they deserve 


 The word equality: As SAR means "pick and proportion that results from many parts that make up a whole evenly." 
 That's why I consider the latter more suitable for what you want to say. 


 The next paragraph begins: 
 "This form of rotation (...) also hinder effective participation in public meetings 
 of those individuals and organizations that need to attend 
 financed by their own means, as every year should travel 
 cities and remote regions, and hence more costly, than the 
 hometowns. " 


 I suggest that it looks like:


 "It 
 hinder effective participation in public meetings of those 
 people and organizations that need to be financed to attend on their own, because all the years must travel from their home cities and remote regions, and therefore more 
 costly. " 


 My two cents. 


 Sincerely, 

 JUAN MANUEL ROJAS 
 Social Communicator 
 President - AGEIA DENSI Colombia 


 Twitter: @ JmanuRojas 


 Join LACRALO: 
 https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es  



















 ________________________________ 
 From: Fatima Cambronero <fatimacambronero at gmail.com>
 To lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org 
 CC: LACRALO discussion list <lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
 Posted: Thursday, November 15, 2012 10:29 a.m. 
 Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Fwd: Statement on ICANN Meeting Strategy 


 Dear, 




 Regarding the Proposed Consolidation Strategy Meetings 
 ICANN is open for public comment until tomorrow 
 (November 16 at 23:59 UTC), with Natalia Enciso we have developed the 
 following statement (is copied below) that we refer to it 
 consideration. 




 In this statement we have considered the various comments 
 been some LACRALO members on our list and further 
 statement prepared by Tijani AFRALO. 




 We have talked to our LACRALO President Jose Arce, and as we 
 time is short, we kindly ask that you please review this 
 statement and make their comments throughout the day, so we 
 have time tomorrow to pass into English and included as 
 public comment LACRALO name. 




 Also because of the shortness of time, I want to ask for 
 Please if you disagree with any part of the text, proposed the 
 wording preferring instead, since comments 
 general will take to be developed and included. 




 Thank you very much. 




 Best regards, 


 Fatima Cambronero 




 * LACRALO Statement on the Proposed Consolidation Strategy 
 ICANN Meeting *


 LACRALO understands the difficulties that the staff responsible for the 
 ICANN meetings are having to find suitable places for 
 ICANN global meetings in some regions, especially since the 
 community has grown in recent times in size and scope. Rate 
 efforts to revise the current selection system. However 
 considers that it is the right time to do so considering that 
 is open review process Framework Regions 
 ICANN Geographic where splitting criterion ICANN regions 
 could be considerably modified depending on the outcome of 
 this process. 


 Also, considering the speech of the new CEO of ICANN, Fadi 
 Chehade in Toronto, one of the objectives is focused on ICANN 
 internationalization of the organization. Therefore, the lack of rotation 
 equitable regional proposal in this consolidation strategy 
 Meeting this goal would be attacking the new central 
 management.


 In the current system of selection of meeting venues rotation 
 regional respected equally, because each one and a half 
 meetings are held approximately in the region of Latin America and 
 Caribbean. With the proposed consolidation strategy, meetings 
 the region would be held every three years affected the equity in the rotation 
 regional, as members of the local community should expect more 
 time to have a chance to participate personally in these 
 meetings. This is a very long life cycle taking into account that 
 Officers of the main mandates of our region have a duration 
 one and two years. 


 This rotation is not equal between regions impact the actual 
 and user engagement members in the region of ALS 
 Latin America and Caribbean, the necessary interaction that must exist in 
 ICANN public meetings between community members and 
 Board, affecting the transparency that should guide these meetings.
 Also hinder effective participation in public meetings 
 of those individuals and organizations that need to attend 
 financed by their own means, as every year should travel 
 cities and remote regions, and hence more costly, than the 
 hometowns. 


 Importantly also considered in most countries 
 Latin America and Caribbean visa is not required for admission. This should be 
 considered an advantage alongside countries like the United States and Canada, and 
 for this reason not be denied to countries in our region 
 possibility to host ICANN meetings, only three 
 years. 


 We also consider it important to include other possible negative impact of the 
 Proposed Consolidation Strategy Meetings and is referred to 
 ICANN Fellowship Program. One of the most important criteria and 
 has been responsible for the success of this program is based on the 
 geographical diversity of its participants and its proximity on 
 the venues of the meetings.This has allowed the program has been 
 enriched with participants from all regions of ICANN 
 participating in meetings equally through their years of 
 life. With the proposed consolidated affect the possibility of 
 fellows from the Latin America and Caribbean are selected 
 to participate in the program, having to wait three years to 
 have the opportunity to be part of it and that ICANN meets the 
 Outreach and empowerment that are part of their objectives. 


 LACRALO is convinced that an equal rotation between regions is 
 important to meet the functional, geographic and cultural 
 Internet enshrined in the ICANN Bylaws. Therefore, to comply 
 consider equitable regional rotation to be followed using 
 selection system meeting current branches and that in the case of 
 play for a region not present options that meet headquarters 
 ICANN requirements needed to host a meeting, you must 
 move to the region next in the meeting schedule stipulated.The 
 region concerned, in turn lose this opportunity, having to wait 
 to ensure compliance with the cycle of the five regions, in order to re- 
 apply. Thus, the criterion is respected regional diversity 
 equitably. Also consider necessary to revisit this 
 criteria once approved the Framework for Geographic Regions 
 be adjusted to the new regional reality. 










 2012/11/15 <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>
 > 
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>
>  Asunto: Re: Fwd: Declaración sobre la Estrategia Reunión de ICANN
>  De: carlton.samuels at gmail.com
>
>  Estoy totalmente de aprobar todos estos comentarios. El proporcionar
> lejos y más
>  evidencia de mi posición como enviado.
>
>
>  - Carlton
>
>
>  ==============================
>  Carlton Samuels A
>  Móvil: 876-818-1799
>  * Estrategia, Planificación, Gobierno, Evaluación y Turnaround *
>  =============================
>
>
>
>
>  El Miércoles, 14 de noviembre 2012 a las 1:34 PM, Natalia Enciso <
> natalia.enciso at gmail.com> escribió:
>
>
> >  (these are notes from the papers, icann bylaws etc, that can be used as
> a
> > base for the statement if You all considered it appropiately)
> >
> >
> > Today the ICANN meeting serves the following purposes:
> > • Engages local communities in various regions on issues affecting them
> > (outreach). ICANN needs to do more to encourage outreach and involvement
> > from the global community. Taking one meeting every 3 year in LAC  wont
> > help achieving this goal, all the contrary. They are an important
> > foundation of the ICANN multi-stakeholder model.
> >
> > • It reinforces ICANN’s global character – it increases and widens
> > participation from different
> > countries.
> >
> > Icann bylaws. Section 2 core values. 4. Seeking and supporting broad,
> > informed participation reflecting the functional, geographic, and
> cultural
> > diversity of the Internet at all levels of policy development and
> > decision-making.possible.
> >
> > Section 3. NON-DISCRIMINATORY TREATMENT
> >
> > ICANN shall not apply its standards, policies, procedures, or practices
> > inequitably or single out any particular party for disparate treatment
> > unless justified by substantial and reasonable cause, such as the
> promotion
> > of effective competition.
> >
> > Fellowship: adding to What Dev said, The Fellowship program is designed
> > toward ensuring geographic diversity and to include representatives from
> > multiple ICANN regions. Following the New strategic plan would diminish
> LAC
> > possibility to apply.
> >
> > And, Fadi in his Torontos speech emphasized about the New internalization
> > of Icann. Taking Icann to the Community and not the Other way a round.
> >
> >
> http://www.icann.org/en/news/press/kits/toronto45/video-chehade-15oct12-en.htm
> >
> > Looking forward for your comments,
> >
> > Natalia
> >
> > Enviado desde mi iPad
> >
> > El 14/11/2012, a las 15:04, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee at gmail.com>
> > escribió:
> >
> > Perhaps this point could be made by  a separate LACRALO statement:
> >
> > According to the ICANN Fellowship page at
> > http://www.icann.org/en/about/participate/fellowships , Fellowships are
> > awarded based on a mix of criteria including geographic proximity to
> > meetings. Thus, more fellowships are awarded to persons in the geographic
> > region of the ICANN meeting.
> >
> > With the proposed Consolidated Meeting Strategy impacting when ICANN
> > meetings are held in Latin America and the Caribbean (LAC) and Africa,
> this
> > "geographic proximity to meetings" criterion for the award of ICANN
> > fellowships for the meetings in Europe and Asia/Pacific from 2014-2016
> > should be adjusted to allow for more fellowships from persons in Africa
> and
> > the LAC regions.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Dev Anand
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Carlton Samuels <
> > carlton.samuels at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Natalia:
> >> There has been a change in the original plan for a joint AFRALO/LACRALO
> >> statement.
> >>
> >> Tijani held the pen on the draft ALAC statement.  And so ensured the
> >> AFRALO
> >> perspective is adequately covered.  Their main concern was about visa
> for
> >> African attendees.
> >>
> >> If we think LACRALO issues are not properly addressed, we could add to
> >> that
> >> draft ALAC statement.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> - Carlton
> >>
> >> ==============================
> >> Carlton A Samuels
> >> Mobile: 876-818-1799
> >> *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround*
> >> =============================
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Natalia Enciso <
> natalia.enciso at gmail.com
> >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > I agree to have a joint statement. But do we still have time? The vote
> >> > announce have been made.
> >> > Nati
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 2012/11/13 Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>
> >> >
> >> >> Recall the AFRALO Leadership proposed a joint AFRALO/LACRALO
> Statement.
> >> >>
> >> >> Is there any interest?
> >> >> - Carlton
> >> >>
> >> >> ==============================
> >> >> Carlton A Samuels
> >> >> Mobile: 876-818-1799
> >> >> *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround*
> >> >>
> >> >> =============================
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> >> From: <alac-announce-request at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> >> >> Date: Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 7:00 AM
> >> >> Subject: ALAC-Announce Digest, Vol 52, Issue 5
> >> >> To: alac-announce at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> >> >>
> >> >>  VOTE ANNOUNCEMENT: ALAC Statement on the ICANN    Consolidated
> >> Meetings
> >> >> Strategy Proposal (At-Large Staff)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >> Message: 1
> >> >> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 11:23:50 +0000 (UTC)
> >> >> From: "At-Large Staff" <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> >> >> Subject: [ALAC-Announce] VOTE ANNOUNCEMENT: ALAC Statement on the
> >> >>
> >> >> Dear All,
> >> >>
> >> >> Olivier Cr?pin-Leblond, Chair of the ALAC, has asked that a vote be
> >> held
> >> >> by
> >> >> the ALAC on the proposed "ALAC Statement on the ICANN Consolidated
> >> >> Meetings
> >> >> Strategy Proposal<https://community.icann.org/x/_5MoAg>" for
> >> >> communication
> >> >> to the relevant parties.
> >> >>
> >> >> *****
> >> >> Question: Do you support the ratification of the "ALAC Statement on
> the
> >> >> ICANN Consolidated Meetings Strategy Proposal<
> >> >> https://community.icann.org/x/_5MoAg>" for communication to the
> >> relevant
> >> >> parties?
> >> >> *****
> >> >>
> >> >> Additional information on this Statement can be found on the At-Large
> >> >> ICANN
> >> >> Consolidated Meetings Strategy Proposal Workspace<
> >> >> https://community.icann.org/x/_5MoAg>.
> >> >>
> >> >> Please note that the poll will be open from 10-November-2012 00:01
> UTC
> >> to
> >> >> 15-Novemeber-2012 23:59 UTC.
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber,
> Nathalie
> >> >> Peregrine and Julia Charvolen
> >> >> ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC
> >> >> E-mail: staff at atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
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> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > natalia.enciso at gmail.com
> >> >
> >> >
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