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jumaropi at yahoo.com
Thu Nov 15 16:10:53 UTC 2012
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From: jumaropi at yahoo.com
Hi Fatima, Natalie and Jose,
Very good to have a statement LACRALO.
I only corrected some things according to the texts and suggested sending the call corrected texts.
In this paragraph:
"In the current system (...) since each one and a half
meetings are held approximately in the region of Latin America and
Caribbean. With the proposed consolidation strategy, inthe region meetings would be held every three years affected the equity in the rotation
regional, as members of the local community should expect more
time to have a chance to participate personally in these
meetings. This is a very long life cycle taking into account that
Officers of the main mandates of our region have a duration
one and two years.
'
I suggest reads:
"(...) Because about every year
and a half meetings are held in the region of Latin America and Caribbean. "(...)
"With the
proposed consolidation strategy, our meetings in the region would be held every three years affected
equality in the rotation
regional. A relevant fact is that members
of our local communities will have to wait longer to have involved
such meetings personally. "
Mainly the change has to do with the word equity. If we check their meanings, almost no sense to apply what we mean.
According to the Dictionary of the Royal Spanish Academy of Language means:
1. f. Equanimity.
2. f. Temperance Benevolent usual. Propensity to be guided, or failure, of a sense of duty or conscience, rather than by the strict requirements of the law or by the final text of the law.
3. f. Natural justice, as opposed to the letter of the positive law.
4. f.Moderation in the price of things, or the conditions of the contracts.
5. f. Disposition of the mind which moves to give everyone what they deserve
The word equality: As SAR means "pick and proportion that results from many parts that make up a whole evenly."
That's why I consider the latter more suitable for what you want to say.
The next paragraph begins:
"This form of rotation (...) also hinder effective participation in public meetings
of those individuals and organizations that need to attend
financed by their own means, as every year should travel
cities and remote regions, and hence more costly, than the
hometowns. "
I suggest that it looks like:
"It
hinder effective participation in public meetings of those
people and organizations that need to be financed to attend on their own, because all the years must travel from their home cities and remote regions, and therefore more
costly. "
My two cents.
Sincerely,
JUAN MANUEL ROJAS
Social Communicator
President - AGEIA DENSI Colombia
Twitter: @ JmanuRojas
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________________________________
From: Fatima Cambronero <fatimacambronero at gmail.com>
To lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org
CC: LACRALO discussion list <lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Posted: Thursday, November 15, 2012 10:29 a.m.
Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Fwd: Statement on ICANN Meeting Strategy
Dear,
Regarding the Proposed Consolidation Strategy Meetings
ICANN is open for public comment until tomorrow
(November 16 at 23:59 UTC), with Natalia Enciso we have developed the
following statement (is copied below) that we refer to it
consideration.
In this statement we have considered the various comments
been some LACRALO members on our list and further
statement prepared by Tijani AFRALO.
We have talked to our LACRALO President Jose Arce, and as we
time is short, we kindly ask that you please review this
statement and make their comments throughout the day, so we
have time tomorrow to pass into English and included as
public comment LACRALO name.
Also because of the shortness of time, I want to ask for
Please if you disagree with any part of the text, proposed the
wording preferring instead, since comments
general will take to be developed and included.
Thank you very much.
Best regards,
Fatima Cambronero
* LACRALO Statement on the Proposed Consolidation Strategy
ICANN Meeting *
LACRALO understands the difficulties that the staff responsible for the
ICANN meetings are having to find suitable places for
ICANN global meetings in some regions, especially since the
community has grown in recent times in size and scope. Rate
efforts to revise the current selection system. However
considers that it is the right time to do so considering that
is open review process Framework Regions
ICANN Geographic where splitting criterion ICANN regions
could be considerably modified depending on the outcome of
this process.
Also, considering the speech of the new CEO of ICANN, Fadi
Chehade in Toronto, one of the objectives is focused on ICANN
internationalization of the organization. Therefore, the lack of rotation
equitable regional proposal in this consolidation strategy
Meeting this goal would be attacking the new central
management.
In the current system of selection of meeting venues rotation
regional respected equally, because each one and a half
meetings are held approximately in the region of Latin America and
Caribbean. With the proposed consolidation strategy, meetings
the region would be held every three years affected the equity in the rotation
regional, as members of the local community should expect more
time to have a chance to participate personally in these
meetings. This is a very long life cycle taking into account that
Officers of the main mandates of our region have a duration
one and two years.
This rotation is not equal between regions impact the actual
and user engagement members in the region of ALS
Latin America and Caribbean, the necessary interaction that must exist in
ICANN public meetings between community members and
Board, affecting the transparency that should guide these meetings.
Also hinder effective participation in public meetings
of those individuals and organizations that need to attend
financed by their own means, as every year should travel
cities and remote regions, and hence more costly, than the
hometowns.
Importantly also considered in most countries
Latin America and Caribbean visa is not required for admission. This should be
considered an advantage alongside countries like the United States and Canada, and
for this reason not be denied to countries in our region
possibility to host ICANN meetings, only three
years.
We also consider it important to include other possible negative impact of the
Proposed Consolidation Strategy Meetings and is referred to
ICANN Fellowship Program. One of the most important criteria and
has been responsible for the success of this program is based on the
geographical diversity of its participants and its proximity on
the venues of the meetings.This has allowed the program has been
enriched with participants from all regions of ICANN
participating in meetings equally through their years of
life. With the proposed consolidated affect the possibility of
fellows from the Latin America and Caribbean are selected
to participate in the program, having to wait three years to
have the opportunity to be part of it and that ICANN meets the
Outreach and empowerment that are part of their objectives.
LACRALO is convinced that an equal rotation between regions is
important to meet the functional, geographic and cultural
Internet enshrined in the ICANN Bylaws. Therefore, to comply
consider equitable regional rotation to be followed using
selection system meeting current branches and that in the case of
play for a region not present options that meet headquarters
ICANN requirements needed to host a meeting, you must
move to the region next in the meeting schedule stipulated.The
region concerned, in turn lose this opportunity, having to wait
to ensure compliance with the cycle of the five regions, in order to re-
apply. Thus, the criterion is respected regional diversity
equitably. Also consider necessary to revisit this
criteria once approved the Framework for Geographic Regions
be adjusted to the new regional reality.
2012/11/15 <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>
>
> [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]]
>
> Asunto: Re: Fwd: Declaración sobre la Estrategia Reunión de ICANN
>Â De: carlton.samuels at gmail.com
>
>Â Estoy totalmente de aprobar todos estos comentarios. El proporcionar
> lejos y más
> evidencia de mi posición como enviado.
>
>
>Â - Carlton
>
>
>Â ==============================
>Â Carlton Samuels A
> Móvil: 876-818-1799
> * Estrategia, Planificación, Gobierno, Evaluación y Turnaround *
>Â =============================
>
>
>
>
> El Miércoles, 14 de noviembre 2012 a las 1:34 PM, Natalia Enciso <
> natalia.enciso at gmail.com> escribió:
>
>
> >Â (these are notes from the papers, icann bylaws etc, that can be used as
> a
> > base for the statement if You all considered it appropiately)
> >
> >
> > Today the ICANN meeting serves the following purposes:
> > ⢠Engages local communities in various regions on issues affecting them
> > (outreach). ICANN needs to do more to encourage outreach and involvement
> > from the global community. Taking one meeting every 3 year in LACÂ wont
> > help achieving this goal, all the contrary. They are an important
> > foundation of the ICANN multi-stakeholder model.
> >
> > ⢠It reinforces ICANNâs global character â it increases and widens
> > participation from different
> > countries.
> >
> > Icann bylaws. Section 2 core values. 4. Seeking and supporting broad,
> > informed participation reflecting the functional, geographic, and
> cultural
> > diversity of the Internet at all levels of policy development and
> > decision-making.possible.
> >
> > Section 3. NON-DISCRIMINATORY TREATMENT
> >
> > ICANN shall not apply its standards, policies, procedures, or practices
> > inequitably or single out any particular party for disparate treatment
> > unless justified by substantial and reasonable cause, such as the
> promotion
> > of effective competition.
> >
> > Fellowship: adding to What Dev said, The Fellowship program is designed
> > toward ensuring geographic diversity and to include representatives from
> > multiple ICANN regions. Following the New strategic plan would diminish
> LAC
> > possibility to apply.
> >
> > And, Fadi in his Torontos speech emphasized about the New internalization
> > of Icann. Taking Icann to the Community and not the Other way a round.
> >
> >
> http://www.icann.org/en/news/press/kits/toronto45/video-chehade-15oct12-en.htm
> >
> > Looking forward for your comments,
> >
> > Natalia
> >
> > Enviado desde mi iPad
> >
> > El 14/11/2012, a las 15:04, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee at gmail.com>
> > escribió:
> >
> > Perhaps this point could be made by a separate LACRALO statement:
> >
> > According to the ICANN Fellowship page at
> > http://www.icann.org/en/about/participate/fellowships , Fellowships are
> > awarded based on a mix of criteria including geographic proximity to
> > meetings. Thus, more fellowships are awarded to persons in the geographic
> > region of the ICANN meeting.
> >
> > With the proposed Consolidated Meeting Strategy impacting when ICANN
> > meetings are held in Latin America and the Caribbean (LAC) and Africa,
> this
> > "geographic proximity to meetings" criterion for the award of ICANN
> > fellowships for the meetings in Europe and Asia/Pacific from 2014-2016
> > should be adjusted to allow for more fellowships from persons in Africa
> and
> > the LAC regions.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Dev Anand
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Carlton Samuels <
> > carlton.samuels at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Natalia:
> >> There has been a change in the original plan for a joint AFRALO/LACRALO
> >> statement.
> >>
> >> Tijani held the pen on the draft ALAC statement. And so ensured the
> >> AFRALO
> >> perspective is adequately covered. Their main concern was about visa
> for
> >> African attendees.
> >>
> >> If we think LACRALO issues are not properly addressed, we could add to
> >> that
> >> draft ALAC statement.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> - Carlton
> >>
> >> ==============================
> >> Carlton A Samuels
> >> Mobile: 876-818-1799
> >> *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround*
> >> =============================
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Natalia Enciso <
> natalia.enciso at gmail.com
> >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > I agree to have a joint statement. But do we still have time? The vote
> >> > announce have been made.
> >> > Nati
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 2012/11/13 Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>
> >> >
> >> >> Recall the AFRALO Leadership proposed a joint AFRALO/LACRALO
> Statement.
> >> >>
> >> >> Is there any interest?
> >> >> - Carlton
> >> >>
> >> >> ==============================
> >> >> Carlton A Samuels
> >> >> Mobile: 876-818-1799
> >> >> *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround*
> >> >>
> >> >> =============================
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> >> From: <alac-announce-request at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> >> >> Date: Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 7:00 AM
> >> >> Subject: ALAC-Announce Digest, Vol 52, Issue 5
> >> >> To: alac-announce at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> >> >>
> >> >>Â VOTE ANNOUNCEMENT: ALAC Statement on the ICANNÂ Â Consolidated
> >> Meetings
> >> >> Strategy Proposal (At-Large Staff)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >> Message: 1
> >> >> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 11:23:50 +0000 (UTC)
> >> >> From: "At-Large Staff" <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> >> >> Subject: [ALAC-Announce] VOTE ANNOUNCEMENT: ALAC Statement on the
> >> >>
> >> >> Dear All,
> >> >>
> >> >> Olivier Cr?pin-Leblond, Chair of the ALAC, has asked that a vote be
> >> held
> >> >> by
> >> >> the ALAC on the proposed "ALAC Statement on the ICANN Consolidated
> >> >> Meetings
> >> >> Strategy Proposal<https://community.icann.org/x/_5MoAg>" for
> >> >> communication
> >> >> to the relevant parties.
> >> >>
> >> >> *****
> >> >> Question: Do you support the ratification of the "ALAC Statement on
> the
> >> >> ICANN Consolidated Meetings Strategy Proposal<
> >> >> https://community.icann.org/x/_5MoAg>" for communication to the
> >> relevant
> >> >> parties?
> >> >> *****
> >> >>
> >> >> Additional information on this Statement can be found on the At-Large
> >> >> ICANN
> >> >> Consolidated Meetings Strategy Proposal Workspace<
> >> >> https://community.icann.org/x/_5MoAg>.
> >> >>
> >> >> Please note that the poll will be open from 10-November-2012 00:01
> UTC
> >> to
> >> >> 15-Novemeber-2012 23:59 UTC.
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber,
> Nathalie
> >> >> Peregrine and Julia Charvolen
> >> >> ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC
> >> >> E-mail: staff at atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
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> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
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> >> >
> >> >
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