[lac-discuss-en] The Interim LACRALO Presidency

Thu Jul 14 04:24:42 UTC 2011

Unless I am looking at the wrong document, I see no specific language in the
Operating Principles that addresses the issue of a LACRALO president
demitting office during  his/her term. I am curious therefore as to what
triggered the nomination process or the discussions thereof.  Also what
should certainly be up for consideration is that in organisations like ours
a common practice is to have the next highest ranking officer act in the
vacant position. Again, I see no evidence of this scenario being
specifically addressed.

Lance Hinds
Chair, DevNet

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Jacqueline Morris <
jam at jacquelinemorris.com> wrote:

> Cool. Just need to make sure we stick to open, transparent democratic
> processes
> Jacqueline A. Morris
> Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and
> Free. (after Chris Lehmann )
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:52 PM, carlos dionisio aguirre
> <carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Dear Jaqueline. Im back in my words. You have a point. Nómination períod
> is open right now.
> > Thanks
> >
> > Enviado desde mi dispositivo inalámbrico BlackBerry®
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jacqueline Morris <jam at jacquelinemorris.com>
> > Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 02:44:45
> > To: <carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com>
> > Cc: <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>; <lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org>;
> <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> > Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] The Interim LACRALO Presidency
> >
> > Why are there no more possibilities? As far as I know, there was a
> > nomination period opened, and it hasn't yet closed. There have been
> > suggestions to do various things, but there may be additional
> > nominations, and I think it is premature and highly presumptuous to
> > assume an outcome before the nomination period has closed. we have
> > processes in LACRALO, and attempts to make end-runs around the system
> > should be guarded against very carefully. I hope that we will maintain
> > the process as described in the LACRALO rules of procedure, as any
> > democratic organization should do.
> >
> > Jacqueline A. Morris
> > Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and
> > Free. (after Chris Lehmann )
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:47 PM, carlos dionisio aguirre
> > <carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> My Dear Brother.
> >>
> >> After Vanda`s resignation there are no more possibilities than JOSE ARCE
> as president.
> >>
> >> My proposal before that was, in order to build a consensus position, a
> shared presidency.
> >>
> >> If you understood other thing,  was for my bad english or because I
> expressed  my idea badly.
> >>
> >> However I totally agree with you in : "among reasonable men and women
> can always find a way to work together for the common goal " and our common
> goal is to put LACRALO in a better position into ICANN consideration than
> now.
> >>
> >> I am sure with JOSE ARCE and Dev we will achieve what we are waiting
> >>
> >> All the best x u, as always.
> >>
> >> Carlos Dionisio Aguirre
> >> NCA GNSO Council - ICANN
> >> former ALAC member by LACRALO
> >> Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios
> >> Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina -
> >> *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423
> >> http://ar.ageiadensi.org
> >>
> >>
> >> From: carlton.samuels at gmail.com
> >> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 19:32:21 -0500
> >> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] The Interim LACRALO Presidency
> >> To: carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com
> >> CC: lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org; staff at atlarge.icann.org
> >>
> >> My Brother Carlos:
> >> I am very pleased to see this follow-up proposal.  Because not only does
> it move us forward together, it reinforces my belief that reasonable men and
> women can always find a way to work together for the common goal.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I understand the objective of your proposal is for Jose to become an
> understudy if the consensus choice is Vanda.  I am in full agreement,
> subject only to ensuring that we do not run afoul of LACRALO rules.
> >>
> >> I would therefore ask that you look closely at Jacqueline's subsequent
> proposal and see if this would be agreeable.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Warmest regards,
> >> Carlton
> >> ==============================
> >> Carlton A Samuels
> >> Mobile: 876-818-1799
> >> Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround
> >>
> >>
> >> =============================
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 12:25 PM, carlos dionisio aguirre <
> carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks Bro Carlton. I take note of your words. I Agree with you in the
> particular moment of LACRALO and the importance to improve it position into
> ICANN consideration. Was the point that I have had in account, when proposed
> JOSE ARCE. I know you want the best for LACRALO like me, so the idea is the
> same even with different solutions. Could we propose a shared presidency !
> would be a good exit for this crossroads and .... all happy. A big hug
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Carlos Dionisio Aguirre
> >> NCA GNSO Council - ICANN
> >> former ALAC member by LACRALO
> >> Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios
> >> Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina -
> >> *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423
> >> http://ar.ageiadensi.org
> >>
> >>
> >> From: carlton.samuels at gmail.com
> >>
> >>
> >> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:31:11 -0500
> >> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] The Interim LACRALO Presidency
> >> To: carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com
> >> CC: lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org; staff at atlarge.icann.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> My Brother Carlos:
> >> I understand your position and take note of your concerns.   Suffice to
> say, we differ sharply in our views on the value of Vanda's experience and
> how the exploitation of her wide and varied ICANN experience may help the
> LACRALO organization.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I do not doubt your commitment to the cause. Neither do I doubt your
> ability to think strategically.  I have worked ever since to liquidate my
> own involvement in ICANN and when my time comes, I will be ready to take my
> leave.  But I really do believe this Interim period is critical to raising
> LACRALO's credibility within ICANN in general and the At-Large community in
> particular.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I had to alert Vanda to what I was thinking.  I can tell you she was
> reluctant at first but agreed on condition she would serve only for the
> Interim period. I have committed a lot of my time and resources to LACRALO,
> from birth until now.  So my concerns are almost visceral.  My endgame
> remains: strengthening LACRALO in a particularly difficult period for us.
> Vanda has what it takes.  And that is what I'm after.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> This is a very rare moment when we disagree.  But my fondest regard and
> greatest personal respect for you remains untroubled.
> >>
> >> Warmest,
> >> Carlton
> >> ==============================
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Carlton A Samuels
> >> Mobile: 876-818-1799
> >> Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround
> >> =============================
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 7:58 AM, carlos dionisio aguirre <
> carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear Bro: I`m really sad after saw your email yesterday night. Sad
> because I can`t share it. The reasons: particularly I think the time for
> Vanda is out, is needed that her think in the new generations. I recognize
> her work, her capacities and skills. but as you said in your previous email
> brutally frankly: the game is over for Vanda, after to be ALAC interim,
> Board Liaison, currently NomCom. I believe the participation of new
> participants is more important than old ones, specially in order to add
> participation and engagement. Vanda have an high compromise with the LAC
> region, and she can participate from outside and will be welcome, her
> experience would be a enormous help for the new participants. We need to
> recognize the growth of new values, and say thank you the old ones. The time
> for some LAC members finish and would be good that their recognize this
> situation, not only good, ethical also, and an act of greatness.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I call to bet for future,  on this sense I can`t share with you my
> Brother Carlton, l with all my sorrow.
> >>
> >> All the best for you, are my permanent wishes
> >> Carlos Dionisio Aguirre
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> NCA GNSO Council - ICANN
> >> former ALAC member by LACRALO
> >> Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios
> >> Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina -
> >> *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423
> >> http://ar.ageiadensi.org
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: carlton.samuels at gmail.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:11:16 -0500
> >>> To: lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> >>> CC: staff at atlarge.icann.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Subject: [lac-discuss-en] The Interim LACRALO Presidency
> >>>
> >>> Dear Friends and Colleagues:
> >>> I have been thinking about the state of the LACRALO organization and
> our
> >>
> >>
> >>> role in ICANN policy development. Quite frankly, we have not done as
>  well
> >>> as would be expected, given the individual talents that come together
> to
> >>> form it.  And to my mind, the reason is clear.  We have spent an
> inordinate
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> amount of time in building organizational capacity thru elections.  And
> so
> >>> much less of our intellectual and experiential resources impacting
> names and
> >>> numbers policy development.  Here is another opportunity to stabilize
> and
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> become more active in policy development.  And for that we need a
> stable
> >>> organization with experienced leadership and proven expertise.
> >>>
> >>> I have already urged members to consider a consensus candidate and
> forgo a
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> divisive election.  For to my mind, the demands on the leadership that
> is
> >>> created by the present ICANN environment means we must go for stability
> and
> >>> experience.  The issues surrounding the rollout of the new gTLD
> program, an
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> assertive GAC and the surge in recognition by the community that
> developing
> >>> economies may actually have different priorities in ICANN means we must
> play
> >>> to a particular set of our strengths.   In this instant case, a person
> at
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> the helm with broad and deep experience in ICANN councils and a deep
> >>> understanding of the connections between present matters is a very
> valuable
> >>> strength and trumps every other consideration,  including youth and
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> enthusiasm.  I am also mindful that we extend our strength in policy
> making
> >>> councils with diversity.  And without exception, that others in the
> >>> community know who you are is a great advantage.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> I cannot and do not doubt Jose Arce's abilities nor his capacity to
> lead,
> >>> even to become a great leader. But the timing for him is not now.  To
> be
> >>> brutally frank, we have a weak LACRALO team in the field.  And we have
> a
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> duty of care to the organization to see to its strengthening. For all
> of
> >>> these reasons I wish to nominate Vanda Scartezini of Brazil as the
> Interim
> >>> LACRALO President and urge her election by affirmation.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Carlton Samuels
> >>>
> >>> ==============================
> >>> Carlton A Samuels
> >>> Mobile: 876-818-1799
> >>
> >>
> >>> *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround*
> >>> =============================
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