[lac-discuss-en] The Interim LACRALO Presidency

Jacqueline Morris jam at jacquelinemorris.com
Thu Jul 14 03:06:05 UTC 2011


Cool. Just need to make sure we stick to open, transparent democratic processes!
Jacqueline A. Morris
Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and
Free. (after Chris Lehmann )



On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:52 PM, carlos dionisio aguirre
<carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Jaqueline. Im back in my words. You have a point. Nómination períod is open right now.
> Thanks
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jacqueline Morris <jam at jacquelinemorris.com>
> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 02:44:45
> To: <carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com>
> Cc: <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>; <lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org>; <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] The Interim LACRALO Presidency
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> Why are there no more possibilities? As far as I know, there was a
> nomination period opened, and it hasn't yet closed. There have been
> suggestions to do various things, but there may be additional
> nominations, and I think it is premature and highly presumptuous to
> assume an outcome before the nomination period has closed. we have
> processes in LACRALO, and attempts to make end-runs around the system
> should be guarded against very carefully. I hope that we will maintain
> the process as described in the LACRALO rules of procedure, as any
> democratic organization should do.
>
> Jacqueline A. Morris
> Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and
> Free. (after Chris Lehmann )
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> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:47 PM, carlos dionisio aguirre
> <carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> My Dear Brother.
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>> After Vanda`s resignation there are no more possibilities than JOSE ARCE as president.
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>> My proposal before that was, in order to build a consensus position, a shared presidency.
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>> If you understood other thing,  was for my bad english or because I expressed  my idea badly.
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>> However I totally agree with you in : "among reasonable men and women can always find a way to work together for the common goal " and our common goal is to put LACRALO in a better position into ICANN consideration than now.
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>> I am sure with JOSE ARCE and Dev we will achieve what we are waiting
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>> All the best x u, as always.
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>> Carlos Dionisio Aguirre
>> NCA GNSO Council - ICANN
>> former ALAC member by LACRALO
>> Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios
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>> http://ar.ageiadensi.org
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>> From: carlton.samuels at gmail.com
>> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 19:32:21 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] The Interim LACRALO Presidency
>> To: carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com
>> CC: lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org; staff at atlarge.icann.org
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>> My Brother Carlos:
>> I am very pleased to see this follow-up proposal.  Because not only does it move us forward together, it reinforces my belief that reasonable men and women can always find a way to work together for the common goal.
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>> I understand the objective of your proposal is for Jose to become an understudy if the consensus choice is Vanda.  I am in full agreement, subject only to ensuring that we do not run afoul of LACRALO rules.
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>> I would therefore ask that you look closely at Jacqueline's subsequent proposal and see if this would be agreeable.
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>> Warmest regards,
>> Carlton
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>> Carlton A Samuels
>> Mobile: 876-818-1799
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>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 12:25 PM, carlos dionisio aguirre <carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> Thanks Bro Carlton. I take note of your words. I Agree with you in the particular moment of LACRALO and the importance to improve it position into ICANN consideration. Was the point that I have had in account, when proposed JOSE ARCE. I know you want the best for LACRALO like me, so the idea is the same even with different solutions. Could we propose a shared presidency ! would be a good exit for this crossroads and .... all happy. A big hug
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>> Carlos Dionisio Aguirre
>> NCA GNSO Council - ICANN
>> former ALAC member by LACRALO
>> Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios
>> Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina -
>> *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423
>> http://ar.ageiadensi.org
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>> From: carlton.samuels at gmail.com
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>> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:31:11 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] The Interim LACRALO Presidency
>> To: carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com
>> CC: lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org; staff at atlarge.icann.org
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>> My Brother Carlos:
>> I understand your position and take note of your concerns.   Suffice to say, we differ sharply in our views on the value of Vanda's experience and how the exploitation of her wide and varied ICANN experience may help the LACRALO organization.
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>> I do not doubt your commitment to the cause. Neither do I doubt your ability to think strategically.  I have worked ever since to liquidate my own involvement in ICANN and when my time comes, I will be ready to take my leave.  But I really do believe this Interim period is critical to raising LACRALO's credibility within ICANN in general and the At-Large community in particular.
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>> I had to alert Vanda to what I was thinking.  I can tell you she was reluctant at first but agreed on condition she would serve only for the Interim period. I have committed a lot of my time and resources to LACRALO, from birth until now.  So my concerns are almost visceral.  My endgame remains: strengthening LACRALO in a particularly difficult period for us. Vanda has what it takes.  And that is what I'm after.
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>> This is a very rare moment when we disagree.  But my fondest regard and greatest personal respect for you remains untroubled.
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>> Warmest,
>> Carlton
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>> Carlton A Samuels
>> Mobile: 876-818-1799
>> Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround
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>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 7:58 AM, carlos dionisio aguirre <carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> Dear Bro: I`m really sad after saw your email yesterday night. Sad because I can`t share it. The reasons: particularly I think the time for Vanda is out, is needed that her think in the new generations. I recognize her work, her capacities and skills. but as you said in your previous email brutally frankly: the game is over for Vanda, after to be ALAC interim, Board Liaison, currently NomCom. I believe the participation of new participants is more important than old ones, specially in order to add participation and engagement. Vanda have an high compromise with the LAC region, and she can participate from outside and will be welcome, her experience would be a enormous help for the new participants. We need to recognize the growth of new values, and say thank you the old ones. The time for some LAC members finish and would be good that their recognize this situation, not only good, ethical also, and an act of greatness.
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>> I call to bet for future,  on this sense I can`t share with you my Brother Carlton, l with all my sorrow.
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>> All the best for you, are my permanent wishes
>> Carlos Dionisio Aguirre
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>> NCA GNSO Council - ICANN
>> former ALAC member by LACRALO
>> Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios
>> Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina -
>> *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423
>> http://ar.ageiadensi.org
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>>> From: carlton.samuels at gmail.com
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>>> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:11:16 -0500
>>> To: lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>> CC: staff at atlarge.icann.org
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>>> Subject: [lac-discuss-en] The Interim LACRALO Presidency
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>>> Dear Friends and Colleagues:
>>> I have been thinking about the state of the LACRALO organization and our
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>>> role in ICANN policy development. Quite frankly, we have not done as  well
>>> as would be expected, given the individual talents that come together to
>>> form it.  And to my mind, the reason is clear.  We have spent an inordinate
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>>> amount of time in building organizational capacity thru elections.  And so
>>> much less of our intellectual and experiential resources impacting names and
>>> numbers policy development.  Here is another opportunity to stabilize and
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>>> become more active in policy development.  And for that we need a stable
>>> organization with experienced leadership and proven expertise.
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>>> I have already urged members to consider a consensus candidate and forgo a
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>>> divisive election.  For to my mind, the demands on the leadership that is
>>> created by the present ICANN environment means we must go for stability and
>>> experience.  The issues surrounding the rollout of the new gTLD program, an
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>>> assertive GAC and the surge in recognition by the community that developing
>>> economies may actually have different priorities in ICANN means we must play
>>> to a particular set of our strengths.   In this instant case, a person at
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>>> the helm with broad and deep experience in ICANN councils and a deep
>>> understanding of the connections between present matters is a very valuable
>>> strength and trumps every other consideration,  including youth and
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>>> enthusiasm.  I am also mindful that we extend our strength in policy making
>>> councils with diversity.  And without exception, that others in the
>>> community know who you are is a great advantage.
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>>> I cannot and do not doubt Jose Arce's abilities nor his capacity to lead,
>>> even to become a great leader. But the timing for him is not now.  To be
>>> brutally frank, we have a weak LACRALO team in the field.  And we have a
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>>> duty of care to the organization to see to its strengthening. For all of
>>> these reasons I wish to nominate Vanda Scartezini of Brazil as the Interim
>>> LACRALO President and urge her election by affirmation.
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>>> Carlton Samuels
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