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andrespiazzagpj at hotmail.com andrespiazzagpj at hotmail.com
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From: andrespiazzagpj at hotmail.com

 
 
Alexander, Jorge, Daniel, who rich contributions! 
 I am going to be a little disordered because I want to respond underneath some commentaries in each mail, and will arrive some post office.  
 
Here I go. 
> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 00:01:09 +0000 > From: apisan at servidor.unam.mx > To: to info at techlaw.com.ar > CC: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Dominio.co... Contribution OFACUI to the list. >  > Daniel, >  > would introduce a shade. >  > we can to neither it touches us like community, nor it touches to ICANN, to take part in  > the internal subjects of any country. 
 
We must have this VERY PRESENT premise. We cannot advise to the Board that takes part. 
 
 Particularly they remember that  > agreements of the World-wide Summit on the Society of the Information  > contains an agreement, that fought to blood and fire, that no indicates that  > country can take part in the administration of ccTLD of another one. >  > the responsibility that is unquestionable and inclaudicable is the one to discuss,  > to define, to spread and to return object from dialogue the conjunction of interests of  > the local community of Internet (LIC) and global (GIC) before which  > gives the responsibility of ccTLD. This is clear in the RFC 1519 and others  > documents. 
 
This is our function. To count on 1 sóla ALS in Colombia is not the ideal situation but he is something. A pity that Antonio has retired of the Teleconferencing of yesterday when questions were made him on the matter. 
>  > cannot be compatible with that responsibility an argumentation that no  > gives certainty about the policies of ccTLD "stakeholders". >  > To risk of happening to me of didactic for some, is necessary to remember that  > "stakeholders" is "to which the subject goes to them in something", life, honor,  > business, I interest, principles. 
 
He is never others, Alexander. It advanced! 
>  > To the companies, institutions and organizations of our countries  > must worry that a TLD arises (cc or g) that is lent to registries of  > names that force them to defensive registries. 
 
>From AT Large, little we can say on the defensive registries, since they are not a so deep preoccupation of the users, although must know it. 
 
 To registrars, ISPs,  > etc. of the region worries the risk to them about confusion of its users and  > everything what he forces to them to adapt his instructive ones, guides, documents and  > operations (including antiSpam, phishing, etc.) 
 
This IF it is a central subject for us. 
>  > and to all worries to us that bad examples spread. If something is not it, that  > is clear. >  > Alexander Pisanty >  >  >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Dr Alexander Pisanty > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico >  > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 >  > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 >  > * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >  >  > On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, Daniel Monastersky wrote: >  > &gt; Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 19:46:05 -0300 > &gt; From: Daniel Monastersky <danielmonastersky at gmail.com> > &gt; Reply-To: to info at techlaw.com.ar > &gt; To: Alexander Pisanty <apisan at servidor.unam.mx> > &g!
 t; Cc: "Spanish [ ISO-8859-1 ] LACRALO" <lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org> > &gt; Subject: > &gt; Windows-1252?Q?Re=A'_=5Blac=2Ddiscuss=2Des=5D_Dominio=Èco=85_Aporte_DE_AC > &gt; UI_a _ = [ Windows-1252 ] the list. > &gt;  > &gt; I add Me to the preoccupation of Alex. We must intervene in the affair and > &gt; to notice that our mandate is exactly for avoiding that facts happen > &gt; like the one of CO > &gt; > &gt; > &gt; Daniel > &gt; > &gt; > &gt; > &gt; > &gt; Dr Daniel Monastersky > &gt; Partner > &gt; Techlaw | Lawyers > &gt; to www.techlaw.com.ar > &gt; > &gt; CEO & Founder > &gt; Robbed Identity > &gt; www.identidadrobada.com > &gt; > &gt; > &gt; > &gt; day 22 of April of 2010 19:27, Alexander Pisanty > &gt; <apisan at servidor.unam.mx> it wrote: > &gt; &gt; Andrés, Antonio, all, > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; thousand excuses by not being able to participate in the today teleconferencing; my > &gt; &gt; plans was frustrated minute in the last. > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt!
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lore > &gt; &gt; many to which it is related and is object of preoccupation and action of > &gt; &gt; our organizations, each one in individual and all altogether. > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Alexander Pisanty > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt;. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > &gt; &gt; Dr Alexander Pisanty > &gt; &gt; UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > &gt; &gt; * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > &gt; &gt; * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > &gt; &gt; * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > &gt; &gt; http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > &gt; &gt; * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org > &gt; &gt;. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > &gt; &gt; !
 > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, Andres Piazza wrote: > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 22:11:22 +0000 > &gt; &gt; &gt; From: Andres Piazza <andrespiazzagpj at hotmail.com> > &gt; &gt; &gt; To: apisan at servidor.unam.mx, amedinagomez at gmail.com > &gt; &gt; &gt; Cc: "[ Spanish Windows-1252 ] LACRALO" > &gt; &gt; &gt; <lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org> > &gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: [ Windows-1252 ] RE: [ lac-discuss-is ] Dominio.co~E Aporte OF ACUI a > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; list. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Dear Alexander, in the Teleconferencing that this happening in this > &gt; &gt; &gt; same moment, I ask myself to him Antonio on this subject. > &gt; &gt; &gt; Just tapeworm that to go away, asi that could not respond. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Your I raise summarizes the preoccupation that habia raised and, also > &gt; &gt; &gt; mia. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Thanks for the contrib!
 ution. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Greetings, > &gt; &gt!
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 &gt; &gt; &gt; Andres > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:48:34 +0000 > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; From: apisan at servidor.unam.mx > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; To: amedinagomez at gmail.com > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; CC: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Dominio.co... Contribution OF ACUI to the list. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Antonio, > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; but putting the things a little more in clear. Whenoriginally > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; proposed, ten years ago, that co could be used likealternative a > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; com > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; by the interested ones, armed the one of San Quintín because "it was tried > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; to sell > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the name of the Mother country "or something of which this affirmation is not one > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; version > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; very exaggerated. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the!
  process of the decade had like objective to create new rules for > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; new operator and to replace the previous one. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Now the new rules is being read because co can be used > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; like alternative to com by the interested ones. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; How it explains ACUI or how ACUI reacts or how it denies like erroneous > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ACUI this interpretation, that indeed could be erroneous or > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; incomplete? > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; EYE: this question has meaning for the history of ccTLDs and by > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; as much for the history and the culture of Internetin the region, and by > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; possible extension of its criteria, in a species ofCompared Right, > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; a > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; other countries, thus to include/understand the precedent is important. Not > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; deals with an att!
 empt of interference of a country brother, respected and > &gt!
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gt; &gt; wanted. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Alexander Pisanty > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Dr Alexander Pisanty > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;!
 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, [ ISO-8859-1 ] Antonio Medina Go'mez wrote: > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:18:04 -0500 > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; From: "[ ISO-8859-1 ] Antonio Medina Go'mez" <amedinagomez at gmail.com> > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; To: "Spanish [ ISO-8859-1 ] LACRALO" > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org> > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ Windows-1252 ] Dominio.co~E Aporte OF ACUI a > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; list. > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Dear friends > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; From the Colombian Association of Users of Internet we have been > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; kind > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to the commentaries in relation to dominio.co and like ALS of Lacralo > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; we want > &gt;&gt;&g!
 t;&gt;&gt; to make the following contributions. > &gt;&gt;&gt;!
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 > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Is of fundamental importance of mentioning that the evolution and development of > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; dominions in Colombia associated to co has lived a complex process but > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; also participativo. > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the interested ones in knowing some these aspects, can accede to > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; vestibule of the Ministry of the Technologies of Information and > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Communications > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; through the following connection > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; http://www.mintic.gov.co/mincom/faces/index.jsp?id=1279 > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the Colombian Association of Users of Internet in thedevelopment of > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; this > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; process has participated actively in representation of the community of > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; usuary of Internet of Colombia. > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Is necessary t!
 o mention that a public process was made at least - > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; of 10 > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; years -, in head of the Ministry of the Technologies of Information and > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Communications, MINTIC, process that has been characterized - like many > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; others > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; by being opened, transparent and participativo, and the different people > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; organizations who participated, at their moment presented/displayed publicly > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; his > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; points of view or written proposal, scene of > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; respect and of consensus. > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; These processes allowed him, to in that then Ministryof > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Communications, to establish, as much the model of management and administration > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; like > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the inherent policies to that administration and in individual !
 > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; criteria > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; necessa!
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he evaluation and selection of the organization in charge of > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; administration. The last years, in this context a process was lived > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; of > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; well-known Licitation and openly socialized. > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; In these processes ACUI participated making the corresponding contributions > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; in > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; work meetings that helped the Ministry to define aspects > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; excellent and to help to obtain consensus, that is what finally > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; enriches > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; these discussions, all it in a democratic atmosphere. > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Is important then to remember that the Ministry of > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Technologies > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; of Information and the Communications has under its responsibility > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; policy definition, the activities of control and monitoring of > &gt;&gt;!
 &gt;&gt;&gt; dominio.co <http://domino.co/>. > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hay to emphasize that today dominio.co offers more value for > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; community of > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Internet. It allows the users to be recognized and tobe located in > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Internet a > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; global level, to take advantage of a standard world-wide class, with clear rules > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; nondiscretionary of a single person. And this also has enormous > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; benefits that are translated in efficiency, service, capacity and price. > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Today we have a good, advisable, interesting dominionand the plus > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; important, > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; result of a participativo process. We must continue the task > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; of > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to work in an ambient transparency and of respect in order to obtain more and > &gt!
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decisions > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; in > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; consensus and right context. > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Antonio Medina Go'mez > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; President > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Colombian Association of Users of Internet > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________ > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; lac-discuss-is mailing list > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; http://www.lacralo.org > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; _________________________________________________________________ > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________ > &gt; &gt; lac-discuss-is mailing list > &gt; &gt; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; &gt; http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/ma!
 ilman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; http://www.lacralo.org > &gt; &gt; > &gt; > &gt; > &gt; > &gt; --  > &gt; Dr Daniel Monastersky > &gt; Partner > &gt; Techlaw | Lawyers > &gt; to www.techlaw.com.ar > &gt; > &gt; CEO & Founder > &gt; Robbed Identity > &gt; www.identidadrobada.com > &gt; 
 
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