[lac-discuss-en] ccTLD CO

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Sun Apr 18 20:00:57 CDT 2010


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Subject: Re: ccTLD CO
From: andrespiazzagpj at hotmail.com

 
 
Jose thanks Luis to raise these preoccupations... 
 Already the habiamos done. Gustaria me to have a ACUI position on the subject in the list. Not to see worries it to me. 
 
In the profile of Antonio Medina in Facebook I saw that subio a video recently and abstracts it in pantallazo. Sera this the ACUI position?  
 
http://twitpic.com/1gpeat 
 
Serious good for knowing it 
 
Greetings,  
 
Andres Piazza 
> From: joseluis at barzallo.com > To: andrespiazzagpj at hotmail.com; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: RE: [ lac-discuss-is ] ccTLD CO > Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:01:42 -0500 >  > Considered >  > Our Antonio friend can help us with its commentaries from its optics > of Colombian user front to which it happens. >  > gives a Antonio hand please Us? >  > warm Greetings, >  > Jose Luis >  > AEDIT > www.aedit.org.ec >  > Columbus 535 and 6 of December.  > Edif. Cristóbal Columbus Of. 602 > Telf: (593 2) 2528774/ 2544464 > Fax: 593 2 2564530 > email: joseluis at barzallo.com > Exempt Ecuador >  > original -----Mensaje > Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of Andres > Piazza > Envoy: Thursday, 08 of April of 2010 14:15 > For: Spanish LACRALO > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] ccTLD CO >  >  >  > Considered,  > Something we talked in the teleconferencing passed about ccTLD CO and many > of us!
  we expressed ourselves on the individual. >  > Aprovecho to copy aqui a chain of the ready Internet Governance > Cactus. >  > Hay to read the post office of down upwards following the Thread.  >  > I must say that opinion of Carlos Afonso identifies to me. >  > Greetings,  >  > Andres Piazza >  > Forwarded message > From: Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com> >  > Date: 2010/4/8 > Subject: Re: [ governance ] privatising ccTLDs > To: governance at lists.cpsr.org, David Goldstein > <goldstein_david at yahoo.com.au> >  >  >  > This may be interesting to many ace it dog serve ace marriesstudy from the >  > developing world: >  >  >  > There plows many ccTLD disparities prevalent in the developing world. >  > For example in the marries of Pakistan, the official ccTLD for pk was >  > to to Pakistani given in the Time of IANA based in the U.S. who there are now >  > eats back to Pakistan. The ccTLD www.pknic.net.pk was to under an IANA >  > allocation and wasn't shifted to the new ICANN c!
 ontracting. For a >  > country of 170 million extra population!
  the fol
lowing plows the domain >  > registration stats where only 29557 domains have been registered: >  >  >  > stats for PKNIC >  > 2010-04-07: >  > domains: 29557 >  > nameservers: 1179 >  >  >  > There is to consumer in-confidence in PKNIC, people plows reluctant to take >  > over-priced domains from PKNIC. PKNIC only registers domains for a >  > period of two years for $25 to domain whereas to TLD for dog be acquired >  > only $16 for two years. Each Time the debates on decentralization of >  > PKNIC you eat up, PKNIC there are connection in the high upyou please and is >  > easily able to revoke such efforts. >  >  >  > When we started raising these issues, PKNIC invited and included some >  > of our Civil Society members to its board of advisers and the members >  > fell for it and felt under honoured to be included in the board that they >  > forgot what the present Internet Governance problems were. They still >  > continue to participate in the IGC but plows prone to PKNI!
 Cinterests >  > which of course is to very big drawback. >  >  >  > PKNIC there are occasionally broken down in its service with outages >  > sometimes to over weeks. Our CS members have started gaining certain >  > interests local from PKNIC which were publicly questioned by both the >  > and international communities visible ace publicly here: >  > http://public.icann.org/node/343. >  >  >  > PKNIC's monopoly cannot be broken through to public-privatepartnership >  > between civil society, academy, private sector and govt >  > to multistakeholder collaboration. The result is that people plows dwells >  > oriented to acquire TLD domains ace to per today the total TLD domains in >  > the country stand AT approximately: >  >  >  > Total Domains in Pakistan: 41,380 >  > (Source:http://www.webhosting.info/registries/country_stats/PK) >  >  >  > IF we look AT our neighbouring country India, to their ccTLD runs ace a >  > to multistakeholder partnership due to which they have dw!
 ells than half a >  > million local domains. Similarly to thei!
 r TLD re
gistrationsplows also AT >  > the same to number: >  > Total Domains in India: 559,213 >  > (Source:http://www.webhosting.info/registries/country_stats/IN) >  >  >  > This clearly shows that allowing ccTLD's to monopolize to their positions >  > in the country effect the citizens of those countries in the following >  > ways: >  >  >  > 1. Control not to over ccTLD monopolies >  > 2. Access low-cost ccTLD >  > 3. Have to buy dwells TLD instead of ccTLD >  > 4. Less to consumer choices >  > 5. Cost of entry to Internet/Web too high >  > 6. Local Lesser opportunities for initiative growth (with respect to >  > building local online activities backed by local domains) >  > 7. Threat to IDNs and GTLD operations when the same ccTLD operator dog >  > influence govt and to other groups to host to their GLTDs/IDNs to under the >  > same infrastructure. >  >  >  > Such monopolies have to be broken otherwise ICANN will onlybe >  > benefiting to handful. >  >  >  > Best Regards >  > Fo!
 uad Bajwa >  >  >  > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 AT 4:37 A.M., David Goldstein >  > <goldstein_david at yahoo.com.au> wrote: >  > &gt; Carlos, >  > &gt; >  > &gt; Any to register that registers DE domain names dog provide an address, even > if for registrars outside Germany this dog be to headache. Nominet you have no > restrictions I a.m. aware of. AuDA there are restrictions that say for com.au > addresses the person or organisation must have an Australian business to number > from the tax office and the name must have some relationship with to their > work. >  >  > &gt; >  > &gt; And when there plows to over 13 million domains, such aceDE and to over 8 million > (UK) it * IS * much to harder to get your preferred Domain Name than say, if > there plows to over one million (AU and CA). >  > &gt; >  > &gt; >  > &gt; Regards >  > &gt; David >  > &gt; >  > &gt; >  > &gt; >  > &gt; Original Message >  > &gt; From: Carlos To Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca> >  > &gt; To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; !
 David Goldstein > <goldstein_david at yahoo.com.au> >  > &gt; Sen!
 t: Wed, 
7 April, 2010 10:58:41 P.m. >  > &gt; Subject: Re: [ governance ] privatising ccTLDs >  > &gt; >  > &gt; David, some additional comments below. >  > &gt; >  > &gt; -- c.a. >  > &gt; >  > &gt; David Goldstein wrote: >  > &gt; &gt; Carlos ET to, >  > &gt; [... ] >  > &gt; &gt; for Some have to requirement to the premises contact ace part of the >  > &gt; &gt; registration process, but this is often easily providedby a >  > &gt; &gt; to register. And the given that world's to number one ccTLD and probably >  > &gt; &gt; to number 2 ccTLD, DE and UK respectively, allow peoplefrom around >  > &gt; &gt; the world to to register domain names in their ccTLDs and the world >  > &gt; &gt; hasn't fails in, then it's not too big to problem. >  > &gt; >  > &gt; Not sure about any restrictions in Nominet (could not find specific >  > &gt; policy requirements in their Web site), but DENIC requires to legal >  > &gt; German address: "It is possible for individuals or institutions (that >  >!
  &gt; have legal capacity) not located in Germany to to register de domains. >  > &gt; There is, to however, to condition, namely that they mustappoint an >  > &gt; administrative contact who is resident in Germany and whoyou have to postcard >  > &gt; possible address AT which it is to serve documents (i.e. not to mere P.O. >  > &gt; box). The administrative contact is then also the person formally >  > &gt; authorized by the domain to holder to receive service of official or court >  > &gt; documents (Zustellungsbevollmächtigter) within the meaning of the German >  > &gt; Code of Civil Procedure (Zivilprozessordnung) and the German Code of >  > &gt; Criminal Procedure (Strafprozessordnung). For The reason this measure is >  > &gt; to ensure that if any party there are to legal claim to pursue, it is not made >  > &gt; dwells difficult for them by having to serve official or court documents >  > &gt; in another country, which is often to long, drawn-out process." >  > &gt!
 ; >  > &gt; Not sure about AuDA to either, but CIRA (Canada) d!
 oes requ
ire proof of >  > &gt; legal Canadian citizenship or to address in Canada. >  > &gt; >  > &gt; &gt; The main issue I see is that by opening up the ccTLD means it is >  > &gt; &gt; to harder for residents to get to their own ccTLD domain. >  > &gt; >  > &gt; Not sure about this. Is think it might even become to easier, although they >  > &gt; will have to is incumbent on for certain addresses with global registrants. My >  > &gt; point is that this "internationalization" just to make money defeats the >  > &gt; original purpose of having ccTLDs national ace the realm of identities in >  > &gt; the Domain Name System. Otherwise, let U.S. all join GNSO:) >  > &gt; >  > &gt; cheers >  > &gt; >  > &gt; -- c.a. >  > &gt; >  > &gt; &gt; >  > &gt; &gt; Cheers David >  > &gt; &gt; >  > &gt; &gt; >  > &gt; &gt; >  > &gt; &gt; Original Message From: Carlos To Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca> >  > &gt; &gt; To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> Sent: Wed, >  > &gt; &gt; 7 Apr!
 il, 2010 9:11:35 P.m. Subject: Re: [ governance ] privatising ccTLDs >  > &gt; &gt; >  > &gt; &gt; >  > &gt; &gt; Hi McTim, I dog start by saying: cheap and quick way toget to gTLD... >  > &gt; &gt;:) There is to business group which convinces to community (or to their >  > &gt; &gt; government, ace I think Colombians have not had the opportunity to >  > &gt; &gt; properly and widely debates this) that to their national identity on the >  > &gt; &gt; Internet is not to longer relevant and let you take to over and convert >  > &gt; &gt; to their ccTLD into to commodity for the international domain market. >  > &gt; &gt; >  > &gt; &gt; In the marries of Colombia, it is clears strange. It isto country with 44 >  > &gt; &gt; million people, relatively high HDI and the third largest South >  > &gt; &gt; American economy -- hard to see how this is going to generate any >  > &gt; &gt; significant amount of money to benefit Colombia -- thisis Officers' Club of Revolutionary Armed F!
 orces from >  > &gt; &gt; being Tuvalu. On the to other hand, !
 given th
e size of the economy and >  > &gt; &gt; Internet penetration in the country, it is hard to see how a >  > &gt; &gt; non-profit self-sustainable operation to keep to their ccTLD in the >  > &gt; &gt; national commons would not succeed. >  > &gt; &gt; >  > &gt; &gt; But this is my view and I a.m. not to Colombian (just to Latin American), >  > &gt; &gt; under... But it makes me sad to know that xyz.co not tolonger points to a >  > &gt; &gt; Colombian Internet space. >  > &gt; &gt; >  > &gt; &gt; frt rgds >  > &gt; &gt; >  > &gt; &gt; -- c.a. >  > &gt; &gt; >  > &gt; &gt; McTim wrote: >  > &gt; &gt; &gt; http://www.cointernet.co/ >  > &gt; &gt; &gt; >  > &gt; &gt; &gt; Do we have any thing to say on this? >  > &gt; &gt; &gt; >  > &gt; &gt; &gt; This type of thing would be to fruitful workshop topic IMO. >  > &gt; &gt; &gt; >  > &gt; &gt; >  > &gt; >  > &gt; -- >  > &gt; >  > &gt; Carlos To Afonso >  > &gt; CGI.br (www.cgi.br) >  > &gt; Nupef (www.nupef.org.br) >  > &gt; ======!
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