[EURO-Discuss] [EURO-ALS] Voting Porcedure

[Nick Ashton-Hart]

Verner, and all:

Could we please, instead of trying to find things to object to, try
and find things to agree on.

To repeat: there is no difference in the outcome whether one ranks
three candidates, or whether you dispose of two individual votes for a
candidate of three.

HOWEVER: insisting on changing everything because one or two
individuals want to change what was agreed by a much larger group of
ALSes in Lisbon is basically the same as suggesting that any one ALS
can veto any decision reached by a much larger group of ALSes.

This would result in nothing ever being achieved.

On 11/05/07, W.Hülsmann (DVD e.V.) <huelsmann at datenschutzverein.de> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> my first question:  "noon UTC" is 1 pm GMT?
>
> For the ALAC-Seats the rankingsystems makes for me no sense and it seems
> to be not democratical for such a few seats to elecect. Therefor we
> should use for the election of the ALAC-Seats tweo possible Votes for
> each voter.
>
> Greatings,
>
> Werner
>
> Nick Ashton-Hart schrieb:
> > Verner:
> >
> > Thank you for your note. The first vote will be to decide whether or
> > not the single ALS who is not a party to the MoU will be voting on the
> > ALAC members and the board members.
> >
> > That vote will start today.
> >
> > With respect to the ranking system: This is what was decided in Lisbon
> > as the procedure to be used, and so that procedure is carried forward
> > to the actual vote. It is the same process that was strongly
> > recommended with respect to the board seats, so on a practical level
> > it makes sense to use only one type of voting on one ballot to reduce
> > confusion.
> >
> > On 11/05/07, W.Hülsmann (DVD e.V.) <huelsmann at datenschutzverein.de>
> > wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> on https://st.icann.org/euralo/index.cgi?euralo_elections_2007 I read:
> >>
> >> "VOTERS: The designated voters (1 per ALS) of ALSes who have signed the
> >> Memorandum of Understanding with ICANN either in-person at the Lisbon
> >> ICANN meeting or digitally via electronic mail - at any time before the
> >> beginning of the voting"
> >>
> >> There must be a mistake: First of all we have to decide, if this "strong
> >> recommendation" will be accepted.
> >>
> >> Next: If there are two seats we have to vote for ALAC, then every voter
> >> should have two possible votes. The two candidates with the most votes
> >> will be elected. This is the democratical way of election. There ist no
> >> need for such a ranking.
> >>
> >> After the election of the two members for the ALAC seats we have two
> >> decide, how many seats shall the EURALO board have. The election of the
> >> EURALO boad members can't start before we know how many board members
> >> are to elect.
> >>
> >> Kind Regarts,
> >>
> >> Werner Hülsmann
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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