[APAC-Discuss] Individual Member Discussion

Fri Oct 23 00:37:11 UTC 2015

Thank you for your view, Fouad.
On 23/10/2015 12:05 am, "Fouad Bajwa" <fouadbajwa at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sounds like martial law and dictatorship. I don't see why there should be
> so many checks in a democratic process, if anyone in ICANN community or ALS
> endorses them then good enough.
>
> Is APRALO funding ALS activities or the individuals work? If not then who
> are we to ask them? On what grounds and rationale are we subjecting them to
> this? Are we a multilateral treaty organisation?
>
> This typical club or chapter like approach should be stopped in the first
> place. No one in the ICANN community had the right to subject any ALS or
> Individual to this. Processes should remain democratic and namely open.
>
> An individuals seeking membership should be invited to a APRALO meeting
> online, asked for an introduction and the present quorum can vote them in
> or out. These martial law type checks should be dismissed.
>
> You want them to share their work etc, give them blogs and it's their
> choice as to how much they share.
>
> For some online dissidents and online dissident supporting groups, the
> current design can be a challenge so be sensitive APRALO. This is not an
> exclusive club. If this is a club then we should revisit our articles and
> ALACs remit.
>
> Individual membership should have flexibility and not an agenda to
> strictly control it by the usual controllers.
>
> Best
>
> Fouad
>
>
> On Thursday, 22 October 2015, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you for your responses Amal. You have begun what I believe will be
>> an interesting discussion.
>>
>> I encourage others to join in. There is no obligation to answer all the
>> questions - you may just choose to answer one or two points. Thats fine.
>> Looking forward to hearing from you.
>>
>> Regards
>> Maureen
>> On 22/10/2015 2:38 pm, "Amal Ramzi" <aurora96 at ymail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Maureen,
>>>
>>> I thought we can comment on the workspace. Anyway, I'll state my comment
>>> by replying to your email.
>>>
>>> - I think individual membership should be accepted only if there is no
>>> ALS in the country of the individual who may be the founder of his/her
>>> country's ALS . Otherwise S/he is asked to join an  ALS in his country .
>>>
>>> - As for the criteria of accepting the individual membership according
>>> to their related affiliations or ICANN awareness, I think there should be
>>> an application for for individuals that includes some questions measuring
>>> the level and the type of the individual's involvement and background about
>>> ICANN or internet issues as the ALAC will decide .
>>>
>>> -  Yes, I support imposing a timeframed membership for both ALSes &
>>> individuals to activate the members roles within APRALO.
>>>
>>> - I think the individual membership should be encouraged as well as
>>> ALSes, 'cause it leads to encourage more ALSes that might be come out by
>>> those individuals. So, individual membership shouldn't be that hard and nor
>>> that easy. Individuals affiliate to some organizations or associations may
>>> be accepted at first as individuals in order to be familiar with APRALO and
>>> be able to apply on behalf of their affiliations to represent an ALS. And
>>> the timeframed membership will make it easy to filter the individual &
>>> ALSes members regularly.
>>>
>>> That was my opinion limited to my knowledge.
>>>
>>> Thank you .
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Amal Al-saqqaf
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 21, 2015 8:54 PM, Maureen Hilyard <
>>> maureen.hilyard at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear APRALO members
>>>
>>>
>>> https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+Rules+of+Procedures+Review+2015-+Individual+membership
>>>
>>>
>>> On the workspace whose link is above, I have summarised some of the
>>> face-to-face discussion we had today at our monthly meeting, plus some
>>> comments that were already on the workspace about INDIVIDUAL MEMBERSHIP.
>>>
>>> Before we move on to a formal set of criteria if would be good to get a
>>> sense of others' views on the following points:
>>>
>>>    - should we expect individuals to prove that they are not affiliated
>>>    with any ICANN or ALS related organisations - if so how would they do this?
>>>    - what evidence should the provide to show that they are actually
>>>    working on end-user activities and are aware of what ICANN is and does
>>>    - should we impose timeframed membership for all ALSes as well as
>>>    individual members - it would make it easier to get rid of the deadwood as
>>>    Satish suggests?
>>>    - should we impose a similar set of metrics for individual members
>>>    as we do for ALSes?
>>>    - What is an optimum sized package for an individual members ALS?
>>>    - what process should we expect for them to vote for their
>>>    representative of their ALS-type organisation?
>>>    - should we be encouraging individual membership or encouraging
>>>    ALSes?
>>>    - Should we make it harder to be an individual member so that we can
>>>    encourage more ALSes (to enable outreach from a common governance or
>>>    technical starting point?)
>>>
>>>
>>> I would really appreciate your comments
>>> Maureen
>>>
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>
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> --------------------------
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