[APAC-Discuss] Individual Member Discussion

Thu Oct 22 23:05:01 UTC 2015

Sounds like martial law and dictatorship. I don't see why there should be
so many checks in a democratic process, if anyone in ICANN community or ALS
endorses them then good enough.

Is APRALO funding ALS activities or the individuals work? If not then who
are we to ask them? On what grounds and rationale are we subjecting them to
this? Are we a multilateral treaty organisation?

This typical club or chapter like approach should be stopped in the first
place. No one in the ICANN community had the right to subject any ALS or
Individual to this. Processes should remain democratic and namely open.

An individuals seeking membership should be invited to a APRALO meeting
online, asked for an introduction and the present quorum can vote them in
or out. These martial law type checks should be dismissed.

You want them to share their work etc, give them blogs and it's their
choice as to how much they share.

For some online dissidents and online dissident supporting groups, the
current design can be a challenge so be sensitive APRALO. This is not an
exclusive club. If this is a club then we should revisit our articles and
ALACs remit.

Individual membership should have flexibility and not an agenda to strictly
control it by the usual controllers.

Best

Fouad

On Thursday, 22 October 2015, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thank you for your responses Amal. You have begun what I believe will be
> an interesting discussion.
>
> I encourage others to join in. There is no obligation to answer all the
> questions - you may just choose to answer one or two points. Thats fine.
> Looking forward to hearing from you.
>
> Regards
> Maureen
> On 22/10/2015 2:38 pm, "Amal Ramzi" <aurora96 at ymail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aurora96 at ymail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Dear Maureen,
>>
>> I thought we can comment on the workspace. Anyway, I'll state my comment
>> by replying to your email.
>>
>> - I think individual membership should be accepted only if there is no
>> ALS in the country of the individual who may be the founder of his/her
>> country's ALS . Otherwise S/he is asked to join an  ALS in his country .
>>
>> - As for the criteria of accepting the individual membership according to
>> their related affiliations or ICANN awareness, I think there should be an
>> application for for individuals that includes some questions measuring the
>> level and the type of the individual's involvement and background about
>> ICANN or internet issues as the ALAC will decide .
>>
>> -  Yes, I support imposing a timeframed membership for both ALSes &
>> individuals to activate the members roles within APRALO.
>>
>> - I think the individual membership should be encouraged as well as
>> ALSes, 'cause it leads to encourage more ALSes that might be come out by
>> those individuals. So, individual membership shouldn't be that hard and nor
>> that easy. Individuals affiliate to some organizations or associations may
>> be accepted at first as individuals in order to be familiar with APRALO and
>> be able to apply on behalf of their affiliations to represent an ALS. And
>> the timeframed membership will make it easy to filter the individual &
>> ALSes members regularly.
>>
>> That was my opinion limited to my knowledge.
>>
>> Thank you .
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Amal Al-saqqaf
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 21, 2015 8:54 PM, Maureen Hilyard <
>> maureen.hilyard at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','maureen.hilyard at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dear APRALO members
>>
>>
>> https://community.icann.org/display/APRALO/APRALO+Rules+of+Procedures+Review+2015-+Individual+membership
>>
>>
>> On the workspace whose link is above, I have summarised some of the
>> face-to-face discussion we had today at our monthly meeting, plus some
>> comments that were already on the workspace about INDIVIDUAL MEMBERSHIP.
>>
>> Before we move on to a formal set of criteria if would be good to get a
>> sense of others' views on the following points:
>>
>>    - should we expect individuals to prove that they are not affiliated
>>    with any ICANN or ALS related organisations - if so how would they do this?
>>    - what evidence should the provide to show that they are actually
>>    working on end-user activities and are aware of what ICANN is and does
>>    - should we impose timeframed membership for all ALSes as well as
>>    individual members - it would make it easier to get rid of the deadwood as
>>    Satish suggests?
>>    - should we impose a similar set of metrics for individual members as
>>    we do for ALSes?
>>    - What is an optimum sized package for an individual members ALS?
>>    - what process should we expect for them to vote for their
>>    representative of their ALS-type organisation?
>>    - should we be encouraging individual membership or encouraging ALSes?
>>    - Should we make it harder to be an individual member so that we can
>>    encourage more ALSes (to enable outreach from a common governance or
>>    technical starting point?)
>>
>>
>> I would really appreciate your comments
>> Maureen
>>
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