[ALAC] ALS Mobilization WP Final Report

Evan Leibovitch evan at telly.org
Mon Nov 23 05:53:14 UTC 2020


I agree with and support Olivier's comments.

Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada
@evanleibovitch / @el56


On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 at 08:20, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Indeed using "oversees" this could imply a matter of top down authority
> towards the community, which it does not have.
> In using "represents the interests", it goes further than "acts in the
> best interests", but it also opens the door to criticism that there are no
> procedures in place to ask every Internet user what they think, so it
> further exacerbates the issue of legitimacy. Thus I would support "acts in
> the best interests"
> Kindest regards,
>
> Olivier
>
>
> On 22/11/2020 14:17, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
>
> Dear Tijani
>
> Thank for first bringing this matter to our attention. It is an issue that
> Alan raised as one that should be dealt with before the report is accepted.
>
> The two alternatives that I had originally been given as replacements for
> "oversee" were "advocate for" and "represent" ...
>
> But I see that your recommendations also include "represents the interests
> of" and "is the voice of".
>
>  I will ask staff create a poll for the ALAC to pose the alternatives to
> be considered for their selection. Thank you again for your suggestions.
>
> Regards
> Maureen
>
>
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2020, 1:05 am Tijani BEN JEMAA, <tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Maureen and all,
>>
>> I would like to thank the ALS Mobilization Working Party for their work
>> and for the quality of their final report.
>> I have a concern with the proposal for Bylaws change to replace "The
>> At-Large Advisory Committee ("At-Large Advisory Committee" or "ALAC") is
>> the primary organizational home within ICANN for individual Internet
>> users » by ""The At-Large Advisory Committee ("At-Large Advisory
>> Committee" or "ALAC") *oversees* the At-Large Community which is the
>> primary organizational home within ICANN for individual Internet users. »
>>
>> The ALAC doesn't oversee the At-Large Community. 2/3 of its members are
>> appointed by this community (RALOs),  I propose to modify this bylaws
>> change proposal by the following: "The At-Large Advisory Committee
>> ("At-Large Advisory Committee" or "ALAC")* is the voice* *of *the
>> At-Large Community which is the primary organizational home within ICANN
>> for individual Internet users. » or "The At-Large Advisory Committee
>> ("At-Large Advisory Committee" or "ALAC") *represents the interests of*
>> the At-Large Community which is the primary organizational home within
>> ICANN for individual Internet users. »
>>
>> The term « oversees » is not appropriate. It is as if you say the GNSO
>> council oversees the NCSG or NCUC or NPOC or the BC or the IPC or the
>> Registry …. communities. Any term that have the meaning of control or
>> domination of the At-Large Community by ALAC  wouldn’t be acceptable.
>> Otherwise, I can live with any other word.
>> Best
>>
>>
>>
>>
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