[ALAC] Updated Paper on Recommended Strategic Changes to Future ICANN Public Meetings

Fri Dec 11 19:41:04 UTC 2020

I also want to give voice to support networking *opportunities* note people
they are not compulsory just like speaking to friends, foes or totally new
people bovet a brrak is not required at physical meetings... And like
Judith I have *many* positive experiences from several different online
fora pre and in pandemic mode and I certainly value them...

I should note that in our virtual National IGF we specifically requested
speakers at sessions to make themselves available in the social networking
channel we provided during the following breaks...  Just saying....

On Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 00:18 Judith Hellerstein <judith at jhellerstein.com>
wrote:

> HI Maureen,
>
> I have read the paper and have different experiences than others.  At the
> IGF USA we did a virtual cocktail and it was great. It was relaxing and
> gave everyone a change to relax and let go steam. Of course we did this
> after the event was over. So perhaps that was why it worked well.  People
> who were not participating in the event and were just webinar participants
> said it was also great
>
> I loved the networking event we did in Malaysia. I thought it worked well.
> We got the idea from RIPE NCC which had a series of fun social events and
> this worked really well.
>
> I tried out Spatial Chat at the Brazilian IGF meeting which was a Samba
> Party and I did not know anyone but it was easy to talk to people and there
> were places to go and quietly talk to others. You would leave the music
> room and go to another room and it worked well. I got a chance to talk to
> people I only knew from meetings. It was relaxing and I think this worked
> out well. At the TTF in January we will be testing a series of these
> networking apps so can provide you with more feedback later.
>
> After each session we had a separate room where people can go and talk to
> the speakers after the session and continue the conversation like often
> happens in in person events and this worked really well. I enjoyed these 20
> minutes convos. I think it really helped.  It was very informal
>
> I think we need more places to be informal.  We need to have zoom rooms,
> white boards and other things that we have during in-person events. We need
> an ability to talk informally instead of just so formal events and meeting
> which can be stale.
>
> Holly and Marita are right, these three week sessions are killers.  For
> Virtual meetings we cannot have 3 weeks, it just will not work especially
> while we all have days jobs
>
> We need more RTT, We need more zoom meetings, we also need video of the
> speakers, but not necessarily videos of the people who are not speaking.
> The people who are speaking also must face the camera. If you just have
> these videos it cuts down on the bandwidth but also helps others relate and
> also helps people who are lip reading be engaged.
>
> Not sure how the regional meetings will work during COVID. I can see
> international meetings maybe starting before regional ones but I could be
> wrong.
>
> these are just some of my thoughts
>
> Best,
>
> Judith
>
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> On 12/8/2020 10:16 PM, Holly Raiche wrote:
>
> And to add
>
> I also question the value of networking in an online context.  Like
> Marita, I need breaks from screens. Real networking is the F2F stuff - the
> give and take of a real conversation over coffee or (after 5) something
> stronger.
>
> And bandwidth is not just a south American/African problem.  Someone ask
> our ALAC chair about bandwidth on Cook Islands!
>
> Another concern is that the meetings stretch over time to cover weeks!
> People can take time off for a week or so - but stretching over weeks when
> particularly AT-Large community members have day jobs as well…...  But yes
> - starting with a regional hub meeting is positive- and at least people are
> in roughly the same time zone.
>
> Holly
>
> On Dec 9, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Marita Moll <mmoll at ca.inter.net> wrote:
>
> I agree with Ricardo's comments re: video.  I live in the middle of a city
> and sometimes I have to turn video off as bandwidth gets thin.
>
> Re: networking -- I have little energy for on-line networking/coffee
> breaks/socials during extended virtual meetings. I usually need to get away
> from the screen for awhile -- I know that sounds boring, but unrelenting
> screen time is mind-numbing. Perhaps there are tools which would make it
> worthwhile, but I haven't seen them yet. I'd rather see meeting shortened
> rather than networking time increased.
>
> I am also wondering if the impact of extensive vaccinations are taken into
> account. It is early days, but if the hype about millions of doses being
> available in a few months has any validity, this will change things again.  Should
> there be a slow return to f2f mtgs, how would vaccinations fit into the
> picture. I will definitely be in line once I see an available line forming.
> But there are sceptics. At some point, will co-vid vaccinations be
> mandatory for those attending large international meetings?
>
> Marita
> On 12/8/2020 3:24 AM, Ricardo Holmquist wrote:
>
> Dear Maureen,
> I mostly agree with the document, I am happy to see this 4 step approach,
> where a phase 1 will allow for regional hubs/regional meetings.
>
> The points I am not agreeing with are in the key findings, these are:
> *Increase time for networking and develop better tools to support
> networking opportunities during virtual meetings.*
> - My concern is networking, thus pushing for regional hubs (phase 1 and
> 2), not during virtual meetings. The networking in the conference I was
> looking for is the one that allows a small group to reach a consensus
> outside the meeting, to elaborate a strategy, to find a solution. Not
> networking to meet new people, yes this one is also needed, but the first
> one is the productive one.
>
>    *Increase visual/video/graphic elements and encourage use of video
> cameras by all participants.*
> - The use of video cameras. I have not seen a study on broadband with or
> without video, but for any compression algorithm it won't be the same to
> compress a presentation with voice, than 200 cameras, (or the same
> broadband needed to share or not your own camera). This objective sounds
> good when you have a nice broadband in your house/office, but this is not
> the case for most Latin America and African countries, not even so in the
> outside larger cities in some developed countries. Before going to take
> this measure, be aware of the impact on internet connections. I don't know
> if someone in this group already has some findings on this.
> Also, take steps before, like the use of Zoom meetings vs webinars in the
> different sessions. I felt particularly uncomfortable in the ALAC - Board
> session, being a Zoom webinar, this is supposed to be a close meeting.
>
> Hope this contributes to the discussion
>
> Best
>
> Ricardo Holmquist
>
> El mar, 8 dic 2020 a las 4:48, Maureen Hilyard (<maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>)
> escribió:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>>  Attached  is a paper that has just arrived from David Olive as ICANN's
>> contribution to the revised schedule and considerations relating to future
>> ICANN meetings. They would like feedback by Friday 18 December (no
>> pressure!!)
>>
>> I would really appreciate some feedback from ALAC and RALOs,that I can
>> send to ICANN Org to supplement the inputs from the SOAC Chairs(-only)
>> meeting which we are holding this Weds (at the same time as the CPWG
>> meeting).
>>
>> So if I could have some feedback from any of you on this thread, I'd
>> really appreciate passing it on (the good, the bad and the ugly!). Their
>> 12-page document is attached.
>>
>> M
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