[ALAC] [ALAC-Announce] VOTE ANNOUNCEMENT: ALS Application (307) Internet Society Rural Development Special Interest Group

Wed Sep 18 16:38:48 UTC 2019

Hello Satish,

I don't think this should be based on assumption, as you and I know that
the Blockchain SIG for instance (where we are both members) has a global
scope and has indeed performed activities across regions. There is also
point about change in leadership as rightly noted by Edwardo.

Our current rules/process does not sufficiently supports a SIG and I think
proceeding with this one might create a precedence that could be avoided.

Regards

Sent from my mobile
Kindly excuse brevity and typos

On Wed, 18 Sep 2019, 06:06 Satish Babu, <sb at inapp.com> wrote:

> Hi Seun,
>
> Thanks for your query.
>
> We have assumed that the organization will have most of its activities in
> the region where the majority of its members reside,  which is Asia-Pacific
> (South Asia in particular).
>
> With kind regards,
>
>
>
>
> satish
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 10:28 AM Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Satish,
>>
>> Based on the section you've quoted, I will like to ask whether the scope
>> of operation of the SIG is exclusively within the APRALO region? If that is
>> the case then I will be fine with this.
>>
>> Regards
>> Sent from my mobile
>> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>>
>> On Wed, 18 Sep 2019, 03:27 Satish Babu via ALAC, <
>> alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Olivier,
>>>
>>> Thanks for raising this point. During the due diligence process, we had
>>> discussed precisely this point in the APRALO list, and had asked Staff to
>>> re-verify the geographical aspect.
>>>
>>> The responses we received from the applicant through Staff were as
>>> follows:
>>>
>>> a. The applicant is registered as a not-for-profit in India
>>>
>>> b. All office bearers of the organization are based in Asia-Pacific, as
>>> are apparently majority of the members.
>>>
>>> c. We considered the following section from ICANN's bylaws:
>>>
>>> (B) who are citizens or residents of countries within the Geographic
>>> Region of the RALO* will predominate in the  operation *of each
>>> At-Large Structure within the RALO, while not necessarily excluding
>>> additional participation, compatible with the interests of the individual
>>> Internet users within the region, by others.
>>>
>>> d. On this basis, we have proceeded to recommend admission  of this
>>> applicant to ALAC.
>>> Of course, we have not independently verified the information they have
>>> provided, but have taken it on trust.
>>>
>>> I also note that we have put on hold an application for membership from
>>> another ISOC SIG, because they could not confirm if they had met the above
>>> criterion.
>>>
>>> I hope this helps.
>>>
>>> With kind regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> satish
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 6:44 AM Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Maureen,
>>>>
>>>> I am very surprised to see this having reached the ALAC with a
>>>> recommendation from APRALO that this should be accepted. This should have
>>>> been picked up at Due Diligence: Internet Society Special Interest Groups
>>>> are global as per the explanation on
>>>> https://www.internetsociety.org/sigs
>>>> This countervenes ALAC rules which specify that ALSes must be
>>>> geographical. See tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-AdjDoc4-2013-07
>>>>
>>>> "2. Be organised so that participation by individual Internet users who
>>>> are citizens or residents of countries within the Geographic Region in
>>>> which the ALS is based will predominate in the ALS' operation. The ALS may
>>>> permit additional participation by others that is compatible with the
>>>> interests of the individual Internet users within the region."
>>>>
>>>> The key words are "be organised" - and as much as I support the work of
>>>> the Internet Society Rurel Special Interest Group, rural areas are not
>>>> limited to Asia. Unless there is a commitment that this SIG will restrict
>>>> the majority of its membership to come from the Asia region. The explicit
>>>> response of the SIG in due diligence was "this is a global SIG".
>>>>
>>>> I also have a concern that it would be possible to create one SIG after
>>>> another in ISOC and the meaning of ALS no longer applies as you are
>>>> effectively creating votes.
>>>>
>>>> The question of "geographical" was asked on the APRALO mailing list as
>>>> recently as 11 September 2019 (
>>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/apac-discuss/2019-September/004952.html
>>>> ) but I do not see any response to this.
>>>>
>>>> Kindest regards,
>>>>
>>>> Olivier
>>>>
>>>> On 18/09/2019 01:58, ICANN At-Large Staff wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The regional advice from APRALO regarding the ALS Application (307)
>>>> Internet Society Rural Development Special Interest Group has been received.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The following question has been posed to the ALAC:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *****
>>>>
>>>> Question: Does the ALAC wish to accredit the (307) Internet Society
>>>> Rural Development Special Interest Group? The regional advice was to accept
>>>> the application.
>>>>
>>>> *****
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please note that this vote will close on Tuesday, 24 September 2019
>>>> 23:59 UTC.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
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