[ALAC] [ALAC-Announce] VOTE ANNOUNCEMENT: ALS Application (307) Internet Society Rural Development Special Interest Group

DANIEL NANGHAKA dndannang at gmail.com
Wed Sep 18 02:43:42 UTC 2019


This is dangerous and needs clear documentation of the scenario based on
global names and geographical reach out

On Wednesday, September 18, 2019, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
wrote:

> HI Satish and Olivier
> I recall asking  Joly and Judith if they were submitted the ISOC Special
> Needs SIG  which was originally a NARALO ALS that went in decommission.  It
> too faced the same issues.  The organizers are mainly in North America but
> membership open to all.
> I think all the  Special Interest Groups have a similar situation .
> G
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> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 10:27 PM Satish Babu via ALAC <
> alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear Olivier,
>>
>> Thanks for raising this point. During the due diligence process, we had
>> discussed precisely this point in the APRALO list, and had asked Staff to
>> re-verify the geographical aspect.
>>
>> The responses we received from the applicant through Staff were as
>> follows:
>>
>> a. The applicant is registered as a not-for-profit in India
>>
>> b. All office bearers of the organization are based in Asia-Pacific, as
>> are apparently majority of the members.
>>
>> c. We considered the following section from ICANN's bylaws:
>>
>> (B) who are citizens or residents of countries within the Geographic
>> Region of the RALO* will predominate in the  operation *of each At-Large
>> Structure within the RALO, while not necessarily excluding additional
>> participation, compatible with the interests of the individual Internet
>> users within the region, by others.
>>
>> d. On this basis, we have proceeded to recommend admission  of this
>> applicant to ALAC.
>> Of course, we have not independently verified the information they have
>> provided, but have taken it on trust.
>>
>> I also note that we have put on hold an application for membership from
>> another ISOC SIG, because they could not confirm if they had met the above
>> criterion.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> With kind regards,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> satish
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 6:44 AM Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Maureen,
>>>
>>> I am very surprised to see this having reached the ALAC with a
>>> recommendation from APRALO that this should be accepted. This should have
>>> been picked up at Due Diligence: Internet Society Special Interest Groups
>>> are global as per the explanation on https://www.internetsociety.
>>> org/sigs
>>> This countervenes ALAC rules which specify that ALSes must be
>>> geographical. See tinyurl.com/ALAC-RoP-AdjDoc4-2013-07
>>>
>>> "2. Be organised so that participation by individual Internet users who
>>> are citizens or residents of countries within the Geographic Region in
>>> which the ALS is based will predominate in the ALS' operation. The ALS may
>>> permit additional participation by others that is compatible with the
>>> interests of the individual Internet users within the region."
>>>
>>> The key words are "be organised" - and as much as I support the work of
>>> the Internet Society Rurel Special Interest Group, rural areas are not
>>> limited to Asia. Unless there is a commitment that this SIG will restrict
>>> the majority of its membership to come from the Asia region. The explicit
>>> response of the SIG in due diligence was "this is a global SIG".
>>>
>>> I also have a concern that it would be possible to create one SIG after
>>> another in ISOC and the meaning of ALS no longer applies as you are
>>> effectively creating votes.
>>>
>>> The question of "geographical" was asked on the APRALO mailing list as
>>> recently as 11 September 2019 ( https://atlarge-lists.icann.
>>> org/pipermail/apac-discuss/2019-September/004952.html ) but I do not
>>> see any response to this.
>>>
>>> Kindest regards,
>>>
>>> Olivier
>>>
>>> On 18/09/2019 01:58, ICANN At-Large Staff wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The regional advice from APRALO regarding the ALS Application (307)
>>> Internet Society Rural Development Special Interest Group has been received.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The following question has been posed to the ALAC:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *****
>>>
>>> Question: Does the ALAC wish to accredit the (307) Internet Society
>>> Rural Development Special Interest Group? The regional advice was to accept
>>> the application.
>>>
>>> *****
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please note that this vote will close on Tuesday, 24 September 2019
>>> 23:59 UTC.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>
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