[ALAC] Fwd: ALAC Response to recent letters regarding At-Large Review

Sun May 27 20:44:29 UTC 2018

During the ITEMS process I sent to the ALAC list an Excel in Spanish and English, with activities for five years, of some LACRALO ALSs. Does anyone remember it? There is a lot of information about the arrival to thousands of end users per year. I do not know if at any time that was sent to the board.

In a meeting with the JUnta I mentioned it, and one of the members said: If what Alberto said is true, we should review that activity well.

I think we do, but we do not advertise. And this, until today, is a bottom-up system.

Best regards

Alberto

De: ALAC <alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> En nombre de Seun Ojedeji
Enviado el: domingo, 27 de mayo de 2018 05:21 p.m.
Para: John Laprise <jlaprise at gmail.com>
CC: ALAC Working List <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>; Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
Asunto: Re: [ALAC] Fwd: ALAC Response to recent letters regarding At-Large Review

Hello John,

While there may indeed be some legitimate people who don't know how atlarge works. In this context however I do not believe it's lack of understanding. It strikes me as people who understands how these things works but have intentionally decided to play ignorance for their personal intentions.

Otherwise how do you explain a GNSO constituency discouraging participation of ALAC in ICANN policy discussions. How do you explain a group who themselves have leaderships asking another group to desolve theirs. It defeats reasoning and purpose.

Regards

Sent from my mobile
Kindly excuse brevity and typos

On Sun, 27 May 2018, 21:01 John Laprise, <jlaprise at gmail.com <mailto:jlaprise at gmail.com> > wrote:

It strikes me that a lot of other SOs & ACs don't understand what we do, how we work, or how we serve end users.

On Sun, May 27, 2018, 2:54 PM Vanda Scartezini <vanda at scartezini.org <mailto:vanda at scartezini.org> > wrote:

Hi Carlton. I am with you but even so, they haven’t write to us to deserve a response. But we could slao, in another occasion send our generic view to the board about all ACs and SO and their action in the internet users. Could be a good alternative don’t you think? Kisses 

Vanda Scartezini

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01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil

Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253

Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 

Sorry for any typos. 

From: ALAC <alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> > on behalf of Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com <mailto:carlton.samuels at gmail.com> >
Date: Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 15:27
To: Dev Teelucksingh <devtee at gmail.com <mailto:devtee at gmail.com> >
Cc: 'ALAC List' <ALAC at atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:ALAC at atlarge-lists.icann.org> >, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> >
Subject: Re: [ALAC] Fwd: ALAC Response to recent letters regarding At-Large Review

Saw that too but it's a done deal.  

All in all, the responses are  very restrained. I so too hate for allegedly sensible people to insist they have a right to waste my limited and yes, valuable time. 

For I still don't believe the ALAC should just accept the narrative that neither the NCSG or the CPH give a tinker's damn about how the ALAC organize and does its business. 

That is, unless they intended the ALAC to enumerate the sundry ways their governance - and dare I say known positions! - may be characterised as inimical to the public interest.

So I would've been more inclined to step on 'em to give up that bee in their bonnet.

Carlton.

On Sat, 26 May 2018, 2:22 pm Dev Anand Teelucksingh, <devtee at gmail.com <mailto:devtee at gmail.com> > wrote:

Great response. However on page 6 re: the ALT, this paragraph

"It is the ALAC’s understanding that many other groups in ICANN have a
leadership team (often called an Executive Committee), including the Board
and the NCSG. In many such cases, including the Board, this group actually
does have significant decision-making rights"

The last sentence isn't clear as to "this group" is referring to, with a
potential interpretation that "this group" is the ALT. I presume this is
what you were intending

"It is the ALAC’s understanding that many other groups in ICANN (such as
the Board and the NCSG) have a leadership team (often called an Executive
Committee). Such leadership teams do have significant decision-making
rights."

Kind Regards,

Dev Anand

On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 7:48 PM Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com <mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com> >
wrote:

> A good summary of our discussions.  We can now look forward to the
Board's response/s to all the letters.

> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Alan Greenberg
> <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> >
wrote:

>> FYI.  Alan

>>> To: Cherine Chalaby <cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org <mailto:cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org> >, Khaled Koubaa <
Khaled.koubaa at board.icann.org <mailto:Khaled.koubaa at board.icann.org> >, Leon Felipe Sanchez Ambia <
leonfelipe at sanchez.mx <mailto:leonfelipe at sanchez.mx> >
>>> From: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> >
>>> Subject: ALAC Response to recent letters regarding At-Large Review
>>> Cc: Board Operations <board-ops-team at icann.org <mailto:board-ops-team at icann.org> >, At-Large Staff <
staff at atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org> >

>>> Dear Cherine and Khaled,

>>> Please find attached a letter to the OEC and the Board in reply to the
recent CPH and NCSG letters regarding the At-Large Review.

>>> The letter was developed over the last three days with the involvement
and support of the ALAC and its RALO Regional Leaders.

>>> Warm regards, Alan

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