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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=ES-AR link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>During the ITEMS process I sent to the ALAC list an Excel in Spanish and English, with activities for five years, of some LACRALO ALSs. Does anyone remember it? There is a lot of information about the arrival to thousands of end users per year. I do not know if at any time that was sent to the board.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>In a meeting with the JUnta I mentioned it, and one of the members said: If what Alberto said is true, we should review that activity well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I think we do, but we do not advertise. And this, until today, is a bottom-up system.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Best regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Alberto<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=ES>De:</span></b><span lang=ES> ALAC <alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> <b>En nombre de </b>Seun Ojedeji<br><b>Enviado el:</b> domingo, 27 de mayo de 2018 05:21 p.m.<br><b>Para:</b> John Laprise <jlaprise@gmail.com><br><b>CC:</b> ALAC Working List <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca><br><b>Asunto:</b> Re: [ALAC] Fwd: ALAC Response to recent letters regarding At-Large Review<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hello John,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>While there may indeed be some legitimate people who don't know how atlarge works. In this context however I do not believe it's lack of understanding. It strikes me as people who understands how these things works but have intentionally decided to play ignorance for their personal intentions.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Otherwise how do you explain a GNSO constituency discouraging participation of ALAC in ICANN policy discussions. How do you explain a group who themselves have leaderships asking another group to desolve theirs. It defeats reasoning and purpose.<br><br>Regards<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my mobile<br>Kindly excuse brevity and typos<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, 27 May 2018, 21:01 John Laprise, <<a href="mailto:jlaprise@gmail.com">jlaprise@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>It strikes me that a lot of other SOs & ACs don't understand what we do, how we work, or how we serve end users.<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, May 27, 2018, 2:54 PM Vanda Scartezini <<a href="mailto:vanda@scartezini.org" target="_blank">vanda@scartezini.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif'>Hi Carlton. I am with you but even so, they haven’t write to us to deserve a response. But we could slao, in another occasion send our generic view to the board about all ACs and SO and their action in the internet users. Could be a good alternative don’t you think? 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I so too hate for allegedly sensible people to insist they have a right to waste my limited and yes, valuable time. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>For I still don't believe the ALAC should just accept the narrative that neither the NCSG or the CPH give a tinker's damn about how the ALAC organize and does its business. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>That is, unless they intended the ALAC to enumerate the sundry ways their governance - and dare I say known positions! - may be characterised as inimical to the public interest.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>So I would've been more inclined to step on 'em to give up that bee in their bonnet.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Carlton.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>On Sat, 26 May 2018, 2:22 pm Dev Anand Teelucksingh, <<a href="mailto:devtee@gmail.com" target="_blank">devtee@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Great response. However on page 6 re: the ALT, this paragraph<br><br>"It is the ALAC’s understanding that many other groups in ICANN have a<br>leadership team (often called an Executive Committee), including the Board<br>and the NCSG. In many such cases, including the Board, this group actually<br>does have significant decision-making rights"<br><br>The last sentence isn't clear as to "this group" is referring to, with a<br>potential interpretation that "this group" is the ALT. I presume this is<br>what you were intending<br><br>"It is the ALAC’s understanding that many other groups in ICANN (such as<br>the Board and the NCSG) have a leadership team (often called an Executive<br>Committee). Such leadership teams do have significant decision-making<br>rights."<br><br>Kind Regards,<br><br>Dev Anand<br><br><br>On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 7:48 PM Maureen Hilyard <<a href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com" target="_blank">maureen.hilyard@gmail.com</a>><br>wrote:<br><br>> A good summary of our discussions. We can now look forward to the<br>Board's response/s to all the letters.<br><br><br><br>> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Alan Greenberg<br>> <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>><br>wrote:<br><br>>> FYI. Alan<br><br>>>> To: Cherine Chalaby <<a href="mailto:cherine.chalaby@board.icann.org" target="_blank">cherine.chalaby@board.icann.org</a>>, Khaled Koubaa <<br><a href="mailto:Khaled.koubaa@board.icann.org" target="_blank">Khaled.koubaa@board.icann.org</a>>, Leon Felipe Sanchez Ambia <<br><a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target="_blank">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>><br>>>> From: Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>><br>>>> Subject: ALAC Response to recent letters regarding At-Large Review<br>>>> Cc: Board Operations <<a href="mailto:board-ops-team@icann.org" target="_blank">board-ops-team@icann.org</a>>, At-Large Staff <<br><a href="mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org" target="_blank">staff@atlarge.icann.org</a>><br><br>>>> Dear Cherine and Khaled,<br><br>>>> Please find attached a letter to the OEC and the Board in reply to the<br>recent CPH and NCSG letters regarding the At-Large Review.<br><br>>>> The letter was developed over the last three days with the involvement<br>and support of the ALAC and its RALO Regional Leaders.<br><br>>>> Warm regards, Alan<br><br><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> ALAC mailing list<br>>> <a href="mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br>>> <a href="https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac" target="_blank">https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac</a><br><br>>> At-Large Online: <a href="http://www.atlarge.icann.org" target="_blank">http://www.atlarge.icann.org</a><br>>> ALAC Working Wiki:<br><a href="https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)</a><br><br><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> ALAC mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br>> <a href="https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac" target="_blank">https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac</a><br><br>> At-Large Online: <a href="http://www.atlarge.icann.org" target="_blank">http://www.atlarge.icann.org</a><br>> ALAC Working Wiki:<br><a href="https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)</a><br>_______________________________________________<br>ALAC mailing list<br><a href="mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br><a href="https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac" target="_blank">https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac</a><br><br>At-Large Online: <a href="http://www.atlarge.icann.org" target="_blank">http://www.atlarge.icann.org</a><br>ALAC Working Wiki: <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>ALAC mailing list<br><a href="mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br><a href="https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac" target="_blank">https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac</a><br><br>At-Large Online: <a href="http://www.atlarge.icann.org" target="_blank">http://www.atlarge.icann.org</a><br>ALAC Working Wiki: <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>ALAC mailing list<br><a href="mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br><a href="https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac" target="_blank">https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac</a><br><br>At-Large Online: <a href="http://www.atlarge.icann.org" target="_blank">http://www.atlarge.icann.org</a><br>ALAC Working Wiki: <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>