[ALAC] IMPORTANT: PAPER ON OFFICE OF DIVERSITY PUBLIC COMMENTS
Alan Greenberg
alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Thu Feb 15 01:57:13 UTC 2018
Oh yes!!!
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Sent from my mobile. Please excuse brevity and typos.
On February 14, 2018 6:41:28 PM EST, Evan Leibovitch <evanleibovitch at gmail.com> wrote:
>Understood, and thanks for the clarification.
>
>Perhaps the idea of warming against selective austerity might make it
>into
>the ALAC response in any case.
>
>- Evan (on mobile)
>
>On Feb 14, 2018 6:23 PM, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
>wrote:
>
>> Evan, please note that this proposal is not from ICANN Organization
>> (current name for staff) or the Board. It is from a number of the
>community
>> members of the CCWG-Accountability group looking at recommendation to
>make
>> to the AC/SOs and the Board.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> At 14/02/2018 01:54 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
>>
>> Fully agree. It is astounding that ICANN wants to consider growing
>its
>> bureaucracy just as budgets are shrinking.
>>
>> Perhaps our advice should encourage the Board and senior staff to
>show
>> leadership to its community as it moves to an increasing culture of
>> austerity. Before ICANN asks its volunteers to sacrifice (through
>reduced
>> support and/or increased workload) it should engage in some of its
>own.
>>
>> (Also funny how ICANN wants to take diversity seriously only AFTER it
>has
>> set in place policies - on gTLD expansion and the concept of domains
>as
>> rental property, for instance - that can't really be undone even if a
>> newly-diverse community disagrees with that path.)
>>
>> - Evan
>>
>>
>> On Feb 14, 2018 12:46 PM, "Kan Kaili" <kankaili at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I fully agree with the comments initiated by Alan and the points by
>> Maureen, Holly and others.
>>
>> That is, ALAC should issue a statement against establishing this
>office.
>> I believe comments of Holly, Maureen and others would suffice as the
>main
>> body of the statement.
>>
>> Kaili
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
>> To: Holly Raiche <h.raiche at internode.on.net>
>> Cc: ALAC <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org> ; Alan Greenberg
>> <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: [ALAC] IMPORTANT: PAPER ON OFFICE OF DIVERSITY PUBLIC
>COMMENTS
>>
>> +1 Holly
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 3:07 PM, Holly Raiche <
>h.raiche at internode.on.net>
>> wrote:
>> Folks
>>
>> Part of me absolutely supports any moves that support diversity. At
>one
>> point in my life, I headed up the Equal Opportunity Unit in the Aust.
>> Broadcasting Corporation so diversity was my job.
>> Putting that aside, I have serious doubts about the concept in this
>> context.
>>
>> If they talking about just ICANN staff, there is already an ICANN HR
>> function that would (or should) be charged with addressing the issue.
>>
>> If they talking about the various organisations that attend the
>SOs/ACs? I
>> have even more concern. Just for starters, it is up to each SO/AC -
>and
>> then individual members within each SO/AC as to who participates. Is
>ICANN
>> seriously going to tell GAC members that some of them must send more
>women
>> representatives/more Asian members/more members from non-English
>speaking
>> backgrounds? And who is going to tell each registry/registrar whom
>they
>> can send to represent them!
>>
>> If the idea is to have diversity in the make-up of ICANN committees,
>I
>> would hope the first basis for selection is qualifications for the
>task.
>>
>> In short, I support Alan’s comments. If the concept is diversity
>WITHIN
>> ICANN staff, it is covered by HR. Otherwise, I have real doubts
>about the
>> concept, other than - at best -it could be just a score card.
>>
>> Holly
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14 Feb 2018, at 11:18 am, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I would like to call your attention to this paper that was just
>circulated
>> by the CCWG-Accountability WS2 on Diversity.
>>
>> The ALAC was silent on the question of an Office of Diversity (OOD)
>that
>> was mentioned in the draft recommendations (see
>> https://community.icann.org/x/Z5tEB)
>>
>> As important as diversity is, I find it troublesome that ICANN might
>be
>> dedicating more bureaucracy to it. As I noted in my recent comments
>on the
>> Specific Reviews Operating Standards ( https://mm.icann.org/
>> pipermail/comments-reviews-standards-17oct17/2018q1/000008.html ), I
>find
>> that for the best of reasons, ICANN is building more and more complex
>> process, rules and bureaucracy. At a time when it is clear we are
>going to
>> have increasing budget constraint, this must be controlled. If we
>consider
>> issues such as this as sacred , then we will see more and more other
>more
>> discretionary budgets cut (and I am predicting that if we don't
>change our
>> philosophy, budget issues will get MUCH worse).
>>
>> According to the original recommendations document (
>> https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/ccwg-acct-
>> ws2-draft-recs-diversity-26oct17-en.pdf ): The role of this office
>would
>> be to independently support, record and keep track of issues
>including
>> complaints from the community on diversity issues within the
>organization.
>>
>> I presume that by "organization" the document means all of ICANN
>(ICANN
>> Organization as the staff are now known, the volunteer community and
>the
>> Board). For ICANN Organization, I see this as falling directly under
>Human
>> Resources and the Complaints Officer. For the volunteer part of
>ICANN, and
>> the Board, I think it quite reasonable to keep records but that does
>not
>> warrant a staffed office. Selection of volunteers is not done
>centrally,
>> and complaints presumably should go to the Ombudsman.
>>
>> Should the ALAC issue a further statement on this? And if so, what
>are
>> your views?
>>
>> Alan
>>
>>
>> From: Bernard Turcotte < turcotte.bernard at gmail.com>
>> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 14:28:23 -0500
>> To: ws2-diversity <ws2-diversity at icann.org >
>> Subject: [Ws2-diversity] CCWG-Accountability-WS2-Diversity - PAPER ON
>> OFFICE OF DIVERSITY PUBLIC COMMENTS
>>
>> All,
>>
>> As promised at the last meeting of the diversity sub-group please
>find
>> below and attached the document prepared by Fiona and Rafik on this
>topic.
>>
>> Bernard Turcotte
>> ICANN Staff Support to the CCWG-Accountability-WS2
>>
>> For Fiona and Rafik.
>>
>> DIVERISTY SUB-GROUP
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> PAPER ON OFFICE OF DIVERSITY PUBLIC COMMENTS
>>
>>
>>
>> Preamble:
>>
>>
>>
>> The Diversity sub-group presented a report for public comments that
>> presented diversity at ICANN identified by a number of elements by
>which
>> diversity may be characterized, measured and reported. The report was
>> informed by feedback from ICANN Supporting Organization(SO)/Advisory
>> Committee (AC)/groups through a Diversity Questionnaire. In the
>report the
>> Sub-group proposes a number of recommendations by which ICANN may
>define,
>> measure, report, support and promote diversity. It also indicated
>that
>> there was a lack of consensus on the establishment on an office of
>> diversity and sought to receive public comments on the position of
>the
>> office of diversity.
>>
>>
>>
>> Summary of Responses from Public Comments:
>>
>> Total of 15 comments
>>
>>
>> - 6 had no comments on an office of diversity
>> - 3 supported an office of diversity or a panel
>> - 3 supported an office of diversity
>> - 3 rejected the notion of an office of diversity.
>>
>>
>> Breakdown by major categories
>>
>>
>> - 7 SO/ACs/Board (those which will have to approve the WS2 final
>> report):
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - 4 had no comments
>> - 3 Rejected the notion of an office of diversity
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - 2 Governments:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - 1 had no comments on an office of diversity
>> - 1 supported an office of diversity
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - 6 Individuals/Associations:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - 1 had no comments on an office of diversity
>> - 3 supported an office of diversity or a panel
>> - 2 supported an office of diversity
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Summary of Positions relating to the OOD from Public Comments:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. Establishment of an office of diversity or a panel similar to
>what
>> is proposed in the Ombuds recommendations.
>>
>> 2. Establishment of an office of diversity
>>
>> 3. Rejection of an office of diversity in favour of staff
>performing
>> this work.
>>
>>
>>
>> Required Actions:
>>
>> The Sub-group on diversity does not have one solid position from the
>> public comments but has instead received a number of options that
>need to
>> be discussed further and weighed in order to determine how oversight
>of
>> diversity can be pursued.
>>
>>
>>
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