[ALAC] IMPORTANT: PAPER ON OFFICE OF DIVERSITY PUBLIC COMMENTS
Alan Greenberg
alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Wed Feb 14 23:22:30 UTC 2018
Evan, please note that this proposal is not from
ICANN Organization (current name for staff) or
the Board. It is from a number of the community
members of the CCWG-Accountability group looking
at recommendation to make to the AC/SOs and the Board.
Alan
At 14/02/2018 01:54 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
>Fully agree. It is astounding that ICANN wants
>to consider growing its bureaucracy just as budgets are shrinking.
>
>Perhaps our advice should encourage the Board
>and senior staff to show leadership to its
>community as it moves to an increasing culture
>of austerity. Before ICANN asks its volunteers
>to sacrifice (through reduced support and/or
>increased workload) it should engage in some of its own.
>
>(Also funny how ICANN wants to take diversity
>seriously only AFTER it has set in place
>policies - on gTLD expansion and the concept of
>domains as rental property, for instance - that
>can't really be undone even if a newly-diverse
>community disagrees with that path.)
>
>- Evan
>
>
>On Feb 14, 2018 12:46 PM, "Kan Kaili"
><<mailto:kankaili at gmail.com>kankaili at gmail.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I fully agree with the comments initiated by
>Alan and the points by Maureen, Holly and others.
>
>That is, ALAC should issue a statement against
>establishing this office. I believe comments of
>Holly, Maureen and others would suffice as the main body of the statement.
>
>Kaili
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>Maureen Hilyard
>To: <mailto:h.raiche at internode.on.net>Holly Raiche
>Cc: <mailto:alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>ALAC ;
><mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>Alan Greenberg
>Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:19 AM
>Subject: Re: [ALAC] IMPORTANT: PAPER ON OFFICE OF DIVERSITY PUBLIC COMMENTS
>
>+1 Holly
>
>On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 3:07 PM, Holly Raiche
><<mailto:h.raiche at internode.on.net>h.raiche at internode.on.net> wrote:
>Folks
>
>Part of me absolutely supports any moves that
>support diversity. At one point in my life, I
>headed up the Equal Opportunity Unit in the
>Aust. Broadcasting Corporation so diversity was my job.
>Putting that aside, I have serious doubts about the concept in this context.
>
>If they talking about just ICANN staff, there is
>already an ICANN HR function that would (or
>should) be charged with addressing the issue.
>
>If they talking about the various organisations
>that attend the SOs/ACs? I have even more
>concern. Just for starters, it is up to each
>SO/AC - and then individual members within each
>SO/AC as to who participates. Is ICANN seriously
>going to tell GAC members that some of them must
>send more women representatives/more Asian
>members/more members from non-English speaking
>backgrounds? And who is going to tell each
>registry/registrar whom they can send to represent them!
>
>If the idea is to have diversity in the make-up
>of ICANN committees, I would hope the first
>basis for selection is qualifications for the task.
>
>In short, I support Alanâs comments. If the
>concept is diversity WITHIN ICANN staff, it is
>covered by HR. Otherwise, I have real doubts
>about the concept, other than - at best -it could be just a score card.
>
>Holly
>
>
>
>
>On 14 Feb 2018, at 11:18 am, Alan Greenberg
><<mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> wrote:
>
>>I would like to call your attention to this
>>paper that was just circulated by the CCWG-Accountability WS2 on Diversity.
>>
>>The ALAC was silent on the question of an
>>Office of Diversity (OOD) that was mentioned in
>>the draft recommendations (see
>><https://community.icann.org/x/Z5tEB>https://community.icann.org/x/Z5tEB)
>>
>>As important as diversity is, I find it
>>troublesome that ICANN might be dedicating more
>>bureaucracy to it. As I noted in my recent
>>comments on the Specific Reviews Operating
>>Standards (
>>https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/comments-reviews-standards-17oct17/2018q1/000008.html
>>), I find that for the best of reasons, ICANN
>>is building more and more complex process,
>>rules and bureaucracy. At a time when it is
>>clear we are going to have increasing budget
>>constraint, this must be controlled. If we
>>consider issues such as this as sacred , then
>>we will see more and more other more
>>discretionary budgets cut (and I am predicting
>>that if we don't change our philosophy, budget issues will get MUCH worse).
>>
>>According to the original recommendations
>>document (
>>https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/ccwg-acct-ws2-draft-recs-diversity-26oct17-en.pdf
>>): The role of this office would be to
>>independently support, record and keep track of
>>issues including complaints from the community
>>on diversity issues within the organization.
>>
>>I presume that by "organization" the document
>>means all of ICANN (ICANN Organization as the
>>staff are now known, the volunteer community
>>and the Board). For ICANN Organization, I see
>>this as falling directly under Human Resources
>>and the Complaints Officer. For the volunteer
>>part of ICANN, and the Board, I think it quite
>>reasonable to keep records but that does not
>>warrant a staffed office. Selection of
>>volunteers is not done centrally, and
>>complaints presumably should go to the Ombudsman.
>>
>>Should the ALAC issue a further statement on
>>this? And if so, what are your views?
>>
>>Alan
>>
>>
>>>From: Bernard Turcotte
>>><<mailto:turcotte.bernard at gmail.com>turcotte.bernard at gmail.com>
>>>Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 14:28:23 -0500
>>>To: ws2-diversity <<mailto:ws2-diversity at icann.org>ws2-diversity at icann.org>
>>>Subject: [Ws2-diversity]
>>>CCWG-Accountability-WS2-Diversity - PAPER ON
>>>OFFICE OF DIVERSITY PUBLIC COMMENTS
>>>
>>>All,
>>>
>>>As promised at the last meeting of the
>>>diversity sub-group please find below and
>>>attached the document prepared by Fiona and Rafik on this topic.
>>>
>>>Bernard Turcotte
>>>ICANN Staff Support to the CCWG-Accountability-WS2
>>>
>>>For Fiona and Rafik.
>>>
>>>DIVERISTY SUB-GROUP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>PAPER ON OFFICE OF DIVERSITY PUBLIC COMMENTS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Preamble:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>The Diversity sub-group presented a report for
>>>public comments that presented diversity at
>>>ICANN identified by a number of elements by
>>>which diversity may be characterized, measured
>>>and reported. The report was informed by
>>>feedback from ICANN Supporting
>>>Organization(SO)/Advisory Committee
>>>(AC)/groups through a Diversity Questionnaire.
>>>In the report the Sub-group proposes a number
>>>of recommendations by which ICANN may define,
>>>measure, report, support and promote
>>>diversity. It also indicated that there was a
>>>lack of consensus on the establishment on an
>>>office of diversity and sought to receive
>>>public comments on the position of the office of diversity.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Summary of Responses from Public Comments:
>>>
>>>
>>>Total of 15 comments
>>>
>>> * 6 had no comments on an office of diversity
>>> * 3 supported an office of diversity or a panel
>>> * 3 supported an office of diversity
>>> * 3 rejected the notion of an office of diversity.
>>>
>>>
>>>Breakdown by major categories
>>>
>>> * 7 SO/ACs/Board (those which will have to
>>> approve the WS2 final report):
>>>
>>>
>>> * 4 had no comments
>>> * 3 Rejected the notion of an office of diversity
>>>
>>>
>>> * 2 Governments:
>>>
>>>
>>> * 1 had no comments on an office of diversity
>>> * 1 supported an office of diversity
>>>
>>>
>>> * 6 Individuals/Associations:
>>>
>>>
>>> * 1 had no comments on an office of diversity
>>> * 3 supported an office of diversity or a panel
>>> * 2 supported an office of diversity
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Summary of Positions relating to the OOD from Public Comments:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>1. Establishment of an office of
>>>diversity or a panel similar to what is proposed in the Ombuds recommendations.
>>>
>>>2. Establishment of an office of diversity
>>>
>>>3. Rejection of an office of diversity in
>>>favour of staff performing this work.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Required Actions:
>>>
>>>The Sub-group on diversity does not have one
>>>solid position from the public comments but
>>>has instead received a number of options that
>>>need to be discussed further and weighed in
>>>order to determine how oversight of diversity can be pursued.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Content-Type: application/pdf; name="Office Of Diversity OptionsV1.2.pdf"
>>>Content-Disposition: attachment;
>>> filename="Office Of Diversity OptionsV1.2.pdf"
>>>X-Attachment-Id: f_jdkm12g20
>>>X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics:
>>>
>>>1;YQXPR0101MB1589;27:5Mxd449bwS/HOp/iuqOwk4pTsHsOLwp4Urd2lAQC+LxH4sZOpA5H5EWy2W2rBs7gToTighaGdY2nGhYw4nbnkMhHj+A5OHljcCMG4yzy5c5s6+66WnCi//rOuNRtAQcG
>>>X-Microsoft-Antispam-Message-Info:
>>>
>>>ApKEtrCYhRKl3UPpOM0fLBOZkaTcY6QwBeeGtAqZw+OgOzfrvYEk+AotEDu2+rNWAMq6958Jvp+c+glyW7W4EQn8cXBw9UBrowrCZ+P5ytgQVR8nbfFnqRajG4VJuLLwZc6022IzI09Frtk3p2uxpg==
>>>
>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>>Content-Disposition: inline
>>>X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics:
>>>
>>>1;YQXPR0101MB1589;27:5Mxd449bwS/HOp/iuqOwk4pTsHsOLwp4Urd2lAQC+LxH4sZOpA5H5EWy2W2rBs7gToTighaGdY2nGhYw4nbnkMhHj+A5OHljcCMG4yzy5c5s6+66WnCi//rOuNRtAQcG
>>>X-Microsoft-Antispam-Message-Info:
>>>
>>>ApKEtrCYhRKl3UPpOM0fLBOZkaTcY6QwBeeGtAqZw+OgOzfrvYEk+AotEDu2+rNWAMq6958Jvp+c+glyW7W4EQn8cXBw9UBrowrCZ+P5ytgQVR8nbfFnqRajG4VJuLLwZc6022IzI09Frtk3p2uxpg==
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>Ws2-diversity mailing list
>>><mailto:Ws2-diversity at icann.org>Ws2-diversity at icann.org
>>>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ws2-diversity
>><Office Of Diversity
>>OptionsV1.2.pdf>_______________________________________________
>>ALAC mailing list
>><mailto:ALAC at atlarge-lists.icann.org>ALAC at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac
>>
>>At-Large Online: <http://www.atlarge.icann.org>http://www.atlarge.icann.org
>>ALAC Working Wiki:
>><https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>ALAC mailing list
><mailto:ALAC at atlarge-lists.icann.org>ALAC at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac
>
>At-Large Online: <http://www.atlarge.icann.org>http://www.atlarge.icann.org
>ALAC Working Wiki:
><https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)
>
>
>
>----------
>_______________________________________________
>ALAC mailing list
><mailto:ALAC at atlarge-lists.icann.org>ALAC at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac
>
>At-Large Online: <http://www.atlarge.icann.org>http://www.atlarge.icann.org
>ALAC Working Wiki:
><https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>ALAC mailing list
><mailto:ALAC at atlarge-lists.icann.org>ALAC at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac
>
>At-Large Online: <http://www.atlarge.icann.org>http://www.atlarge.icann.org
>ALAC Working Wiki:
><https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)>https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/alac/attachments/20180214/52584f53/attachment.html>
More information about the ALAC
mailing list