[ALAC] URGENT: GAC Liaison

Tue Jun 14 14:07:26 UTC 2016

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
wrote:

> All appointments, unless explicitly otherwise, terminate at the end of the
> AGM. My message said the person selected by the formal process would serve
> for the 2016-2017 ICANN year which begins at the end of the Hyderabad
> meeting.
>

SO: Which was clear, but the appointment we require right now is the
temporary one until we seat the permanent one in Hyderabad

>
> The GAC meets throughout the week, just as the ALAC does. I don't think we
> would be well served in appointing a sitting ALAC member.
>

SO: Okay thats fair enough, although we indeed currently have sitting ALAC
member serve as Liaison for other groups that run parallel with ALAC
sessions as well (while Maureen may grumbling, I have not observed it in
her work ;-) ). Nevertheless i get your point, but my point was that this
temporary person will just be there for less than 6months (to terminate at
Hyderabad), is the intention to make the person permanent?

I will assume we have been able to figure out how to get someone (yet to be
selected) to Helsinki within this short time which is one of the reason why
having someone who already have funding fill in for that period may be more
feasible(it musn't be ALAC member though).

Regards

>
> Alan
>
> At 14/06/2016 03:31 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> The way I understand Alan's mail is that the appointment can't wait till
> Helsinki, it implies that it indeed needs to be done this week (if the
> intention is for the person to be at Helsinki).
>
> That said, I think It needs be cristal clear how long an interim period
> will be. Thinking aloud; I am wondering why we can't just appoint someone
> within ALAC(or who already have existing role) temporarily instead of
> selecting someone from the community who will just be there for a few
> months.
>
> Regards
>
> Sent from my LG G4
> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
> On 14 Jun 2016 7:34 a.m., "sandra hoferichter" <info at hoferichter.eu>
> wrote:
> Addition: the appointment should be made by consensus, to avoid lengthy
> calls or voting procedures. ALAC could use the F2F time in HEL and decide
> (find consensus).
>
> It is an interim so don't lets over complicate the process!
>
> Best Sandra
>
> (Note: This message was sent from my iPhone - I do apologise for any
> misspelling.)
>
> Am 14.06.2016 um 08:25 schrieb sandra hoferichter <info at hoferichter.eu>:
>
> The two issues are interrelated:
> 1. Setting up a nomination committee
> 2. deciding about the GAC liaison as an interim position now - or later
> about a permanent seat.
>
> The first should (can not) not be done in a rush but is needed for any
> permanent ALAC position including the GAC liaison.
>
> For the second point: it is wise not to lose the momentum and go for a
> interim appointment even without a nomination committee.
>
> In this respect I agree with Sebastiens proposal:  "ALT will make a
> recommendation to ALAC who will appoint an interim
> Liaison to the GAC to start in Helsinki."
>
> Best Sandra
>
> (Note: This message was sent from my iPhone - I do apologise for any
> misspelling.)
>
> Am 14.06.2016 um 05:37 schrieb LeÃ³n Felipe SÃ¡nchez AmbÃa <
> leonfelipe at sanchez.mx >:
>
> Dear all,
>
> While I like the proposed way forward by Tijani, I think it is of the
> essence that we fill the Liaisons seats temporarily ASAP (that means before
> Helsinki).
>
> Therefore, I support option 2 which I transcribe for avoidance of doubt:
>
> 2. We delegate to the ALT the responsibility to appoint an interim Liaison
> to the GAC to start in Helsinki.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> LeÃ³n
>
> El 13/06/2016, a las 4:00 p.m., Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
> > escribiÃ³:
>
> You are saying that we should leave the GAC Liaison position open for
> Helsinki (since there certainly is no time to do this before), and probably
> the CSC Liaisons as well (with a deadline in July).
>
> I think that unwise.
>
> Other ALAC members please comment.
>
> Alan
>
> At 13/06/2016 12:43 PM, Tijani BEN JEMAA wrote:
>
> Alan and all,
>
> The opinion I expressed in the ALT and that IÃ¢€™m reiteiterating here is
> the following: Create a selection committee composed of
>
>    - one member from each region selected by the RALO
>    - Five members from ALAC selected by the respective RALOs
>    - one non voting chair selected by ALAC
>
> - The selection committee will count 10 people regionally balanced with 5
> ALAC members and 5 non ALAC member plus the chair
> - Create a charter for the selection committee including mission and
> working methods
> - Create selection criteria for each position. If another position is
> created, the selection criteria will be augmented by the criteria for the
> new position.
> - All selections without exception shall go through the selection
> committee
> - All recommendations of the selection committee shall be submitted to
> the ALAC
> - The ALAC will have the final word about any appointment or nomination
> for all the position. It can not follow the recommendation of the selection
> committee if there are clear and justified reasons.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Tijani BEN JEMAA
> Executive Director
> Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI)
> Phone: +216 98 330 114
>           +216 52 385 114
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Le 12 juin 2016 Ãƒ  17:44, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca > a
> ÃƒÂ©crit :
>
>
> As you know, during the meeting with the GAC in Marrakech, we proposed
> that the GAC and the ALAC exchange Liaisons. Although there were no details
> of exactly how to go about this, the idea was accepted by the GAC.
>
> The Chair of the GAC has now given his approval for the ALAC to proceed
> and identify the person who will serve as its Liaison. Although there is
> nothing formal in this regard, it is clear to me that whoever we propose
> must be acceptable to the GAC (or more particularly to GAC leadership).
> That process was followed with the GNSO Liaison to the GAC and I think it
> would be unreasonable to do otherwise here - this entire concept must
> depend on trust and good faith.
>
> In terms of qualifications, the person must be familiar with and have the
> confidence of the ALAC, and at the same time, understand governments and
> preferably the GAC. I believe that there are a number of people in our
> community who meet these requirements.
>
> Following consultation with the ALT, it appears that there are a few
> issues.
>
> a) It is clear that we do not have the time to initiate a formal call for
> nominations and the selection process that will follow it if the person is
> to be seated in Helsinki.
>
> b) This is a important step and we want transparency in the process.
>
> c) It would be very foolish if we did not take up the offer and appoint
> someone in time for the Helsinki meeting. Having a Liaison to the GAC is
> something that we have been wanting for a long time, and we have no control
> over how the GAC's position might change if we leave the position unfilled.
>
> d) On the long term, we will have to ensure that we have travel support
> for this new Liaison, but on the short term, we have the travel slots for
> the ccNSO and GNSO Liaisons which are not needed by the incumbents (Maureen
> is funded as an ALAC Member and Olivier as the EURALO Chair) and we have
> recently been given permission to use these slots as we wish.
>
> After consultation with the ALT, I would like to propose the following:
>
> 1. Once we have the ALAC Selection committee in place, and in ample time
> prior to the Annual General Meeting to be held in Hyderabad, we initiate a
> formal call for nominations; have the selection committee make its
> recommendation(s) to the ALAC; and appoint a Governmental Advisory
> Committee Liaison (subject to GAC approval) for the 2016-2017 year.
>
> 2. We delegate to the ALT the responsibility to appoint an interim Liaison
> to the GAC to start in Helsinki.
>
> I would like to initiate a consensus call on this, so please make any
> comments quickly, and be clear if you have concerns with the premises (a-d)
> or the proposals (1-2) and any alternative proposals.
>
> Alan
>
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