[ALAC] URGENT: GAC Liaison

Alan Greenberg alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Tue Jun 14 12:06:07 UTC 2016 

All appointments, unless explicitly otherwise, 
terminate at the end of the AGM. My message said 
the person selected by the formal process would 
serve for the 2016-2017 ICANN year which begins 
at the end of the Hyderabad meeting.

The GAC meets throughout the week, just as the 
ALAC does. I don't think we would be well served 
in appointing a sitting ALAC member.

Alan

At 14/06/2016 03:31 AM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:

>Hi,
>
>The way I understand Alan's mail is that the 
>appointment can't wait till Helsinki, it implies 
>that it indeed needs to be done this week (if 
>the intention is for the person to be at Helsinki).
>
>That said, I think It needs be cristal clear how 
>long an interim period will be. Thinking aloud; 
>I am wondering why we can't just appoint someone 
>within ALAC(or who already have existing role) 
>temporarily instead of selecting someone from 
>the community who will just be there for a few months.
>
>Regards
>
>Sent from my LG G4
>Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>On 14 Jun 2016 7:34 a.m., "sandra hoferichter" 
><<mailto:info at hoferichter.eu>info at hoferichter.eu> wrote:
>Addition: the appointment should be made by 
>consensus, to avoid lengthy calls or voting 
>procedures. ALAC could use the F2F time in HEL and decide (find consensus).
>
>It is an interim so don't lets over complicate the process!
>
>Best Sandra
>
>(Note: This message was sent from my iPhone - I 
>do apologise for any misspelling.)
>
>Am 14.06.2016 um 08:25 schrieb sandra 
>hoferichter <<mailto:info at hoferichter.eu>info at hoferichter.eu>:
>
>>The two issues are interrelated:
>>1. Setting up a nomination committee
>>2. deciding about the GAC liaison as an interim 
>>position now - or later about a permanent seat.
>>
>>The first should (can not) not be done in a 
>>rush but is needed for any permanent ALAC position including the GAC liaison.
>>
>>For the second point: it is wise not to lose 
>>the momentum and go for a interim appointment 
>>even without a nomination committee.
>>
>>In this respect I agree with Sebastiens 
>>proposal:  "ALT will make a recommendation to ALAC who will appoint an interim
>>Liaison to the GAC to start in Helsinki."
>>
>>Best Sandra
>>
>>(Note: This message was sent from my iPhone - I 
>>do apologise for any misspelling.)
>>
>>Am 14.06.2016 um 05:37 schrieb León Felipe 
>>Sánchez Ambía <<mailto:leonfelipe at sanchez.mx>leonfelipe at sanchez.mx>:
>>
>>>Dear all,
>>>
>>>While I like the proposed way forward by 
>>>Tijani, I think it is of the essence that we 
>>>fill the Liaisons seats temporarily ASAP (that means before Helsinki).
>>>
>>>Therefore, I support option 2 which I transcribe for avoidance of doubt:
>>>
>>>2. We delegate to the ALT the responsibility 
>>>to appoint an interim Liaison to the GAC to start in Helsinki.
>>>
>>>
>>>Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>León
>>>
>>>>El 13/06/2016, a las 4:00 p.m., Alan 
>>>>Greenberg 
>>>><<mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> escribió:
>>>>
>>>>You are saying that we should leave the GAC 
>>>>Liaison position open for Helsinki (since 
>>>>there certainly is no time to do this 
>>>>before), and probably the CSC Liaisons as well (with a deadline in July).
>>>>
>>>>I think that unwise.
>>>>
>>>>Other ALAC members please comment.
>>>>
>>>>Alan
>>>>
>>>>At 13/06/2016 12:43 PM, Tijani BEN JEMAA wrote:
>>>>>Alan and all,
>>>>>
>>>>>The opinion I expressed in the ALT and that 
>>>>>I̢۪m reiteiterating here is the following:
>>>>>Create a selection committee composed of
>>>>>    * one member from each region selected by the RALO
>>>>>    * Five members from ALAC selected by the respective RALOs
>>>>>    * one non voting chair selected by ALAC
>>>>>    * The selection committee will count 10 
>>>>> people regionally balanced with 5 ALAC 
>>>>> members and 5 non ALAC member plus the chair
>>>>>    * Create a charter for the selection 
>>>>> committee including mission and working methods
>>>>>    * Create selection criteria for each 
>>>>> position. If another position is created, 
>>>>> the selection criteria will be augmented by the criteria for the new position.
>>>>>    * All selections without exception shall 
>>>>> go through the selection committee
>>>>>    * All recommendations of the selection 
>>>>> committee shall be submitted to the ALAC
>>>>>    * The ALAC will have the final word 
>>>>> about any appointment or nomination for all 
>>>>> the position. It can not follow the 
>>>>> recommendation of the selection committee 
>>>>> if there are clear and justified reasons.
>>>>> 
>>>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>    Tijani BEN JEMAA
>>>>>    Executive Director
>>>>>    Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI)
>>>>>    Phone: <tel:%2B216%2098%20330%20114>+216 98 330 114
>>>>>               <tel:%2B216%2052%20385%20114>+216 52 385 114
>>>>> 
>>>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>    Le 12 juin 2016 Ã  17:44, Alan 
>>>>>> Greenberg 
>>>>>> <<mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca > a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    As you know, during the meeting with 
>>>>>> the GAC in Marrakech, we proposed that the 
>>>>>> GAC and the ALAC exchange Liaisons. 
>>>>>> Although there were no details of exactly 
>>>>>> how to go about this, the idea was accepted by the GAC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    The Chair of the GAC has now given his 
>>>>>> approval for the ALAC to proceed and 
>>>>>> identify the person who will serve as its 
>>>>>> Liaison. Although there is nothing formal 
>>>>>> in this regard, it is clear to me that 
>>>>>> whoever we propose must be acceptable to 
>>>>>> the GAC (or more particularly to GAC 
>>>>>> leadership). That process was followed 
>>>>>> with the GNSO Liaison to the GAC and I 
>>>>>> think it would be unreasonable to do 
>>>>>> otherwise here - this entire concept must depend on trust and good faith.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    In terms of qualifications, the person 
>>>>>> must be familiar with and have the 
>>>>>> confidence of the ALAC, and at the same 
>>>>>> time, understand governments and 
>>>>>> preferably the GAC. I believe that there 
>>>>>> are a number of people in our community who meet these requirements.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Following consultation with the ALT, it 
>>>>>> appears that there are a few issues.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    a) It is clear that we do not have the 
>>>>>> time to initiate a formal call for 
>>>>>> nominations and the selection process that 
>>>>>> will follow it if the person is to be seated in Helsinki.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    b) This is a important step and we want transparency in the process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    c) It would be very foolish if we did 
>>>>>> not take up the offer and appoint someone 
>>>>>> in time for the Helsinki meeting. Having a 
>>>>>> Liaison to the GAC is something that we 
>>>>>> have been wanting for a long time, and we 
>>>>>> have no control over how the GAC's 
>>>>>> position might change if we leave the position unfilled.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    d) On the long term, we will have to 
>>>>>> ensure that we have travel support for 
>>>>>> this new Liaison, but on the short term, 
>>>>>> we have the travel slots for the ccNSO and 
>>>>>> GNSO Liaisons which are not needed by the 
>>>>>> incumbents (Maureen is funded as an ALAC 
>>>>>> Member and Olivier as the EURALO Chair) 
>>>>>> and we have recently been given permission to use these slots as we wish.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    After consultation with the ALT, I 
>>>>>> would like to propose the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    1. Once we have the ALAC Selection 
>>>>>> committee in place, and in ample time 
>>>>>> prior to the Annual General Meeting to be 
>>>>>> held in Hyderabad, we initiate a formal 
>>>>>> call for nominations; have the selection 
>>>>>> committee make its recommendation(s) to 
>>>>>> the ALAC; and appoint a Governmental 
>>>>>> Advisory Committee Liaison (subject to GAC approval) for the 2016-2017 year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    2. We delegate to the ALT the 
>>>>>> responsibility to appoint an interim Liaison to the GAC to start in Helsinki.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    I would like to initiate a consensus 
>>>>>> call on this, so please make any comments 
>>>>>> quickly, and be clear if you have concerns 
>>>>>> with the premises (a-d) or the proposals (1-2) and any alternative proposals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Alan
>>>>>>
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