[ALAC] Questions on Accountability Proposals

Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond ocl at gih.com
Mon Jun 1 17:07:54 UTC 2015


Hello all,

it is exactly for this reason that I selected "No". The Accountability
Process is so important that I would not risk jeopardizing it for
something as unworkable and as unlikely as this.
Kind regards,

Olivier

Le 31/05/2015 19:29, Alan Greenberg a écrit :
> Perhaps the logic is similar, but the implications if the ALAC were to
> take such a position an possibly jeopardize the accountability
> measures being adopted and thus the IANA transition are not insignificant.
>
> Alan
>
> At 31/05/2015 01:00 PM, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
>> Not exactly opposite, Alan. Olivier did qualify his NO response with
>> " I see no particular harm in a call for something that will, in 
>> practice, likely neither work, nor ever be used. If we reach the
>> need  for legal enforceability, it means ICANN really is in trouble."
>> which prompted my "Well, What's the point.."
>>
>> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 6:43 AM, Alan Greenberg
>> <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> > wrote:
>>
>>     Murray, You cannot fully support the comments of Maureen and
>>     Olivier because they answered exactly oppositely to Q3.
>>
>>     Alan
>>
>>     At 31/05/2015 12:15 PM, Murray McKercher wrote:
>>>         1. Yes, 2. No 3. Yes
>>>
>>>         I fully support the comments made by Olivier and Maureen.
>>>
>>>         Consensus consultation and transparency provide the
>>>         foundation for democratic process. If ICANN is serious in
>>>         its dedication to creating a democratic global governance
>>>         system, then commitment to consensus consultation and
>>>         transparency is key. Substantive movement towards
>>>         confrontational legalistic processes may undermine the
>>>         strategic goals of the organisation and the spirit to which
>>>         the volunteers are committed.
>>>
>>>         Murray McKercher
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         On Saturday, May 30, 2015 10:14 PM, Alan Greenberg
>>>         <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
>>>         > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>         Yes, No and No.
>>>
>>>         At 30/05/2015 10:04 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>         >1. Do you believe that failing anything else, we must have the
>>>         >ability to remove parts of or all of the Board?
>>>         >
>>>         >2. With the exception of Board member removal, do we need
>>>         legal
>>>         >enforceability of can we rely on good faith (and Board member
>>>         >removal if you supported that).
>>>         >
>>>         >3. If the final CCWG proposal calls for full legal
>>>         enforceability,
>>>         >is that sufficient reason for the ALAC to not ratify it?
>>>         >
>>>         >Alan
>>>
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