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    Hello all,<br>
    <br>
    it is exactly for this reason that I selected "No". The
    Accountability Process is so important that I would not risk
    jeopardizing it for something as unworkable and as unlikely as this.<br>
    Kind regards,<br>
    <br>
    Olivier<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 31/05/2015 19:29, Alan Greenberg a
      écrit :<br>
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cite="mid:83411716-96d7-4cef-9506-0a48b3357f2d@EXHUB2010-2.campus.MCGILL.CA"
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      Perhaps the logic is similar, but the implications if the ALAC
      were to
      take such a position an possibly jeopardize the accountability
      measures
      being adopted and thus the IANA transition are not
      insignificant.<br>
      <br>
      Alan<br>
      <br>
      At 31/05/2015 01:00 PM, Maureen Hilyard wrote:<br>
      <blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">Not exactly opposite,
        Alan.
        Olivier did qualify his NO response with " I see no particular
        harm
        in a call for something that will, in  practice, likely neither
        work, nor ever be used. If we reach the need  for legal
        enforceability, it means ICANN really is in trouble." which
        prompted
        my "Well, What's the point.." <br>
        <br>
        On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 6:43 AM, Alan Greenberg
        <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>
        > wrote:<br>
        <dl>
          <dd>Murray, You cannot fully support the comments of Maureen
            and Olivier
            because they answered exactly oppositely to Q3.<br>
            <br>
          </dd>
          <dd>Alan<br>
            <br>
          </dd>
          <dd>At 31/05/2015 12:15 PM, Murray McKercher wrote:<br>
            <blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">
              <dd>1. Yes, 2. No 3. Yes<br>
                <br>
              </dd>
              <dd>I fully support the comments made by Olivier and
                Maureen. <br>
                <br>
              </dd>
              <dd>Consensus consultation and transparency provide the
                foundation for
                democratic process. If ICANN is serious in its
                dedication to creating a
                democratic global governance system, then commitment to
                consensus
                consultation and transparency is key. Substantive
                movement towards
                confrontational legalistic processes may undermine the
                strategic goals of
                the organisation and the spirit to which the volunteers
                are
                committed.<br>
                <br>
              </dd>
              <dd>Murray McKercher<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                <br>
                <br>
              </dd>
              <dd><font face="Arial, Helvetica" size="2">On Saturday,
                  May 30, 2015 10:14
                  PM, Alan Greenberg
                  <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>
                  > wrote:<br>
                </font><br>
                <br>
              </dd>
              <dd>Yes, No and No.<br>
                <br>
              </dd>
              <dd>At 30/05/2015 10:04 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:<br>
                <br>
              </dd>
              <dd>>1. Do you believe that failing anything else, we
                must have the
                <br>
              </dd>
              <dd>>ability to remove parts of or all of the Board?<br>
              </dd>
              <dd>><br>
              </dd>
              <dd>>2. With the exception of Board member removal, do
                we need legal
                <br>
              </dd>
              <dd>>enforceability of can we rely on good faith (and
                Board member
                <br>
              </dd>
              <dd>>removal if you supported that).<br>
              </dd>
              <dd>><br>
              </dd>
              <dd>>3. If the final CCWG proposal calls for full legal
                enforceability, <br>
              </dd>
              <dd>>is that sufficient reason for the ALAC to not
                ratify it?<br>
              </dd>
              <dd>><br>
              </dd>
              <dd>>Alan<br>
                <br>
              </dd>
              <dd>_______________________________________________<br>
              </dd>
              <dd>ALAC mailing list<br>
              </dd>
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                  href="mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org">
                  ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br>
              </dd>
              <dd>
                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac"
                  eudora="autourl">
                  https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac</a><br>
                <br>
              </dd>
              <dd>At-Large Online:
                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://www.atlarge.icann.org/">http://www.atlarge.icann.org</a>
                <br>
              </dd>
              <dd>ALAC Working Wiki:
                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+">https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+</a>
                (ALAC)<br>
              </dd>
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            <br>
          </dd>
          <dd>_______________________________________________<br>
          </dd>
          <dd>ALAC mailing list<br>
          </dd>
          <dd><a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org">
              ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br>
          </dd>
          <dd>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac"
              eudora="autourl">
              https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac</a><br>
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          </dd>
          <dd>At-Large Online:
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://www.atlarge.icann.org">http://www.atlarge.icann.org</a>
            <br>
          </dd>
          <dd>ALAC Working Wiki:
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+%28ALAC%29">https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALAC)</a>
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