[ALAC] Follow-up on the ALAC Advice to the Board regarding PICs
Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
ocl at gih.com
Thu Nov 13 20:57:00 UTC 2014
as I've said, they're light edits for clarity.
As long as the edits to not change the intent or meaning of the
sentence, I don't believe a re-vote is needed. Typos & grammar fall in
On 13/11/2014 20:44, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
> I had thought that once the vote started, the draft being voted on was
> set in stone.
> The changes Olivier suggests are all reasonable. I'm pressed for time
> today but will try to do the changes.
> - Evan
> On 13 November 2014 14:34, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
> <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>> wrote:
> Evan, I believe that all (or most) of the changes that Olivier is
> suggesting are cosmetic and do not at all change the intent or
> meaning of the statement. If I had more time, I probably would
> have caught most last night. Please try to make these changes and
> I will get it reported (and a formal note of explanation to the
> ALAC) when I return in a few hours.
> At 13/11/2014 01:57 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
>> On 13 November 2014 11:28, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com
>> <mailto:ocl at gih.com>> wrote:
>> Dear Alan,
>> thank you for this. I realise that time is of the essence, so
>> will be
>> short in my comments:
>> 1. This is a formal follow-up Advice from the ALAC.
>> â€‹Maybe this is hair-splitting, but it is more as background to
>> existing advice -- caused by the Board's need for more
>> information -- rather than new independent Advice.
>> ALAC has long had to deal with different classifications of what
>> it votes on. As this document itself contains no recommended
>> courses of action itself, I would not call it Advice.â€‹
>> As such, when
>> mentioning names etc. it should be better if a certain level of
>> formality is upheld. When citing names, please cite the full
>> "The heightened protection measures announced by Fadi, at the
>> start of
>> -> The heightened protection measures announced by ICANN
>> President and
>> CEO Fadi ChehadÃ©, at the start of ICANN51"
>> [...other generally-sensible edits ...]â€‹
>> â€‹Believe me, Olivier, given more time there is much that could
>> have been refined, added, and maybe even taken out. Notably, more
>> time would have enabled direct answers to the illogical Registry
>> response that PICs can only be fixed through a PDP (as the PICs
>> themselves were not created by a PDP).
>> But doing even a usable statement able to actually be effective
>> has been a fight â€‹against time, which is the reason the voting
>> period is so compressed. Similarly, consultation with the gTLD WG
>> was also compressed (and was not helped when the email thread
>> started by my urgently asking the WG to review the original draft
>> was hijacked for an unrelated purpose :-P ).
>> The Board is **now** considering its response to our Advice from
>> ICANN51. To say this "backgrounder" was done expediently is an
>> understatement. In the time it would take to incorporate your
>> edits (and others that would be considered), the document will
>> have been rendered nearly useless by not getting to the Board in
>> time. Your indulgence is appreciated.
>> â€‹OTOH, if there is anything FACTUALLY (rather than
>> stylistically) wrong with the doc, that needs addressing.â€‹
>> â€‹- Evanâ€‹
> Evan Leibovitch
> Toronto Canada
> Em: evan at telly dot org
> Sk: evanleibovitch
> Tw: el56
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
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