[ALAC] Follow-up on the ALAC Advice to the Board regarding PICs
alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Thu Nov 13 21:15:41 UTC 2014
Sent from my mobile. Please excuse brevity and typos.
On November 13, 2014 3:57:00 PM EST, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com> wrote:
>as I've said, they're light edits for clarity.
>As long as the edits to not change the intent or meaning of the
>sentence, I don't believe a re-vote is needed. Typos & grammar fall in
>On 13/11/2014 20:44, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
>> I had thought that once the vote started, the draft being voted on
>> set in stone.
>> The changes Olivier suggests are all reasonable. I'm pressed for time
>> today but will try to do the changes.
>> - Evan
>> On 13 November 2014 14:34, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
>> <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>> wrote:
>> Evan, I believe that all (or most) of the changes that Olivier is
>> suggesting are cosmetic and do not at all change the intent or
>> meaning of the statement. If I had more time, I probably would
>> have caught most last night. Please try to make these changes and
>> I will get it reported (and a formal note of explanation to the
>> ALAC) when I return in a few hours.
>> At 13/11/2014 01:57 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
>>> On 13 November 2014 11:28, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
><ocl at gih.com
>>> <mailto:ocl at gih.com>> wrote:
>>> Dear Alan,
>>> thank you for this. I realise that time is of the essence,
>>> will be
>>> short in my comments:
>>> 1. This is a formal follow-up Advice from the ALAC.
>>> â€‹Maybe this is hair-splitting, but it is more as background to
>>> existing advice -- caused by the Board's need for more
>>> information -- rather than new independent Advice.
>>> ALAC has long had to deal with different classifications of what
>>> it votes on. As this document itself contains no recommended
>>> courses of action itself, I would not call it Advice.â€‹
>>> As such, when
>>> mentioning names etc. it should be better if a certain level
>>> formality is upheld. When citing names, please cite the full
>>> "The heightened protection measures announced by Fadi, at
>>> start of
>>> -> The heightened protection measures announced by ICANN
>>> President and
>>> CEO Fadi ChehadÃ©, at the start of ICANN51"
>>> [...other generally-sensible edits ...]â€‹
>>> â€‹Believe me, Olivier, given more time there is much that could
>>> have been refined, added, and maybe even taken out. Notably,
>>> time would have enabled direct answers to the illogical Registry
>>> response that PICs can only be fixed through a PDP (as the PICs
>>> themselves were not created by a PDP).
>>> But doing even a usable statement able to actually be effective
>>> has been a fight â€‹against time, which is the reason the voting
>>> period is so compressed. Similarly, consultation with the gTLD
>>> was also compressed (and was not helped when the email thread
>>> started by my urgently asking the WG to review the original
>>> was hijacked for an unrelated purpose :-P ).
>>> The Board is **now** considering its response to our Advice from
>>> ICANN51. To say this "backgrounder" was done expediently is an
>>> understatement. In the time it would take to incorporate your
>>> edits (and others that would be considered), the document will
>>> have been rendered nearly useless by not getting to the Board in
>>> time. Your indulgence is appreciated.
>>> â€‹OTOH, if there is anything FACTUALLY (rather than
>>> stylistically) wrong with the doc, that needs addressing.â€‹
>>> â€‹- Evanâ€‹
>> Evan Leibovitch
>> Toronto Canada
>> Em: evan at telly dot org
>> Sk: evanleibovitch
>> Tw: el56
>Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
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