[ALAC] Follow-up on the ALAC Advice to the Board regarding PICs

[Alan Greenberg]

I agree. 
-- 
Sent from my mobile. Please excuse brevity and typos.

On November 13, 2014 3:57:00 PM EST, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com> wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>as I've said, they're light edits for clarity.
>As long as the edits to not change the intent or meaning of the
>sentence, I don't believe a re-vote is needed. Typos & grammar fall in
>this category.
>Kind regards,
>
>Olivier
>
>On 13/11/2014 20:44, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
>> OK.
>>
>> I had thought that once the vote started, the draft being voted on
>was
>> set in stone.
>>
>> The changes Olivier suggests are all reasonable. I'm pressed for time
>> today but will try to do the changes.
>>
>> - Evan
>>
>>
>> On 13 November 2014 14:34, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
>> <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>> wrote:
>>
>>     Evan, I believe that all (or most) of the changes that Olivier is
>>     suggesting are cosmetic and do not at all change the intent or
>>     meaning of the statement. If I had more time, I probably would
>>     have caught most last night. Please try to make these changes and
>>     I will get it reported (and a formal note of explanation to the
>>     ALAC) when I return in a few hours.
>>
>>     Alan
>>
>>     At 13/11/2014 01:57 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
>>
>>
>>>     On 13 November 2014 11:28, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
><ocl at gih.com
>>>     <mailto:ocl at gih.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Dear Alan,
>>>
>>>         thank you for this. I realise that time is of the essence,
>so
>>>         will be
>>>         short in my comments:
>>>
>>>         1. This is a formal follow-up Advice from the ALAC.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     ​Maybe this is hair-splitting, but it is more as background to
>>>     existing advice -- caused by the Board's need for more
>>>     information -- rather than new independent Advice.
>>>
>>>     ALAC has long had to deal with different classifications of what
>>>     it votes on. As this document itself contains no recommended
>>>     courses of action itself, I would not call it Advice.​
>>>
>>>
>>>         As such, when
>>>         mentioning names etc. it should be better if a certain level
>of
>>>         formality is upheld. When citing names, please cite the full
>>>         name:
>>>         "The heightened protection measures announced by Fadi, at
>the
>>>         start of
>>>         ICANN51"
>>>         -> The heightened protection measures announced by ICANN
>>>         President and
>>>         CEO Fadi Chehadé, at the start of ICANN51"
>>>         ​
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>         [...other generally-sensible edits ...]​
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>     ​Believe me, Olivier, given more time there is much that could
>>>     have been refined, added, and maybe even taken out. Notably,
>more
>>>     time would have enabled direct answers to the illogical Registry
>>>     response that PICs can only be fixed through a PDP (as the PICs
>>>     themselves were not created by a PDP).
>>>
>>>     But doing even a usable statement able to actually be effective
>>>     has been a fight ​against time, which is the reason the voting
>>>     period is so compressed. Similarly, consultation with the gTLD
>WG
>>>     was also compressed (and was not helped when the email thread
>>>     started by my urgently asking the WG to review the original
>draft
>>>     was hijacked for an unrelated purpose :-P ).
>>>
>>>     The Board is **now** considering its response to our Advice from
>>>     ICANN51. To say this "backgrounder" was done expediently is an
>>>     understatement. In the time it would take to incorporate your
>>>     edits (and others that would be considered), the document will
>>>     have been rendered nearly useless by not getting to the Board in
>>>     time. Your indulgence is appreciated.
>>>
>>>     ​OTOH, if there is anything FACTUALLY (rather than
>>>     stylistically) wrong with the doc, that needs addressing.​
>>>
>>>
>>>     ​- Evan​
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Evan Leibovitch
>> Toronto Canada
>>
>>     Em: evan at telly dot org
>>     Sk: evanleibovitch
>>     Tw: el56
>>
>
>-- 
>Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
>http://www.gih.com/ocl.html