[ALAC] Follow-up on the ALAC Advice to the Board regarding PICs

[Evan Leibovitch]

Just a clarification.

I am not changing to reflect the addition comments (vis PDPs), which is
additional substance. The modifications will only be regarding Olivier's
minor grammatical and clarification proposals.

I would *like* to put the substantive changes in, but they're not
appropriate given the timelines.

And since the changes are not of substance but just grammar and clarity,
I'm not sure the vote itself has been suspended.

- Evan


On 13 November 2014 15:28, Holly Raiche <h.raiche at internode.on.net> wrote:

> Okay - so we are not voting.  I also agree with the proposals suggested by
> Evan - when he manages the time to incorporate the changes, and the changes
> suggested by Olivier
>
> Holly
> On 14 Nov 2014, at 6:54 am, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <
> leonfelipe at sanchez.mx> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Alan, Olivier and Evan,
> >
> > I agree with the proposed changes suggested by Olivier.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > León
> >> El 13/11/2014, a las 13:44, Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org> escribió:
> >>
> >> OK.
> >>
> >> I had thought that once the vote started, the draft being voted on was
> set
> >> in stone.
> >>
> >> The changes Olivier suggests are all reasonable. I'm pressed for time
> today
> >> but will try to do the changes.
> >>
> >> - Evan
> >>
> >>
> >> On 13 November 2014 14:34, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
> <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Evan, I believe that all (or most) of the changes that Olivier is
> >>> suggesting are cosmetic and do not at all change the intent or meaning
> of
> >>> the statement. If I had more time, I probably would have caught most
> last
> >>> night. Please try to make these changes and I will get it reported
> (and a
> >>> formal note of explanation to the ALAC) when I return in a few hours.
> >>>
> >>> Alan
> >>>
> >>> At 13/11/2014 01:57 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 13 November 2014 11:28, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com
> <mailto:ocl at gih.com>> wrote:
> >>> Dear Alan,
> >>>
> >>> thank you for this. I realise that time is of the essence, so will be
> >>> short in my comments:
> >>>
> >>> 1. This is a formal follow-up Advice from the ALAC.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ​Maybe this is hair-splitting, but it is more as background to
> existing
> >>> advice -- caused by the Board's need for more information -- rather
> than
> >>> new independent Advice.
> >>>
> >>> ALAC has long had to deal with different classifications of what it
> votes
> >>> on. As this document itself contains no recommended courses of action
> >>> itself, I would not call it Advice.​
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> As such, when
> >>> mentioning names etc. it should be better if a certain level of
> >>> formality is upheld. When citing names, please cite the full name:
> >>> "The heightened protection measures announced by Fadi, at the start of
> >>> ICANN51"
> >>> -> The heightened protection measures announced by ICANN President and
> >>> CEO Fadi Chehadé, at the start of ICANN51"
> >>> ​
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [...other generally-sensible edits ...]​
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ​Believe me, Olivier, given more time there is much that could have
> been
> >>> refined, added, and maybe even taken out. Notably, more time would have
> >>> enabled direct answers to the illogical Registry response that PICs can
> >>> only be fixed through a PDP (as the PICs themselves were not created
> by a
> >>> PDP).
> >>>
> >>> But doing even a usable statement able to actually be effective has
> been a
> >>> fight ​against time, which is the reason the voting period is so
> >>> compressed. Similarly, consultation with the gTLD WG was also
> compressed
> >>> (and was not helped when the email thread started by my urgently
> asking the
> >>> WG to review the original draft was hijacked for an unrelated purpose
> :-P ).
> >>>
> >>> The Board is **now** considering its response to our Advice from
> ICANN51.
> >>> To say this "backgrounder" was done expediently is an understatement.
> In
> >>> the time it would take to incorporate your edits (and others that
> would be
> >>> considered), the document will have been rendered nearly useless by not
> >>> getting to the Board in time. Your indulgence is appreciated.
> >>>
> >>> ​OTOH, if there is anything FACTUALLY (rather than stylistically)
> wrong
> >>> with the doc, that needs addressing.​
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ​- Evan​
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Evan Leibovitch
> >> Toronto Canada
> >>
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Evan Leibovitch
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