[lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] [CPWG] REMINDER / Meeting invitation: At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call on Wednesday, 08 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC

Thu Jul 9 16:40:00 UTC 2020

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Hola christopher 

 Como dijo Tijani, creo que todos estaban atentos a lo que sucedió con 
 .amazon al elaborar este enfoque. Sin embargo, estoy de acuerdo con tu punto de vista y en 
 hecho cree que el caso de "comunidad" completamente falso para el TLD .amazon 
 En realidad refuerza su caso. 

 Dicho esto, personalmente he desarrollado un caso severo de "TLD ennui". 
 A quién le importa cómo se despliega todo (desde un punto de vista de interés público) hasta que llegue 
 hora de cazar abusos. 

 La experiencia pasada ha demostrado que los TLD son completamente miserables y 
 forma ineficiente de reunir a una comunidad, especialmente a la luz de todo 
 Las grandes alternativas que existen. Uno podría hacer fácilmente el caso de que 
 Solo Reddit puede servir mejor a la construcción de la comunidad y la responsabilidad pública 
 que cualquier registro Desde el principio, los TLD son asuntos de pago por juego que 
 debe, incluso los de la comunidad, contribuir a la desigualdad de acceso a un 
 extensión no compartida por otras plataformas. La experiencia de At-Large con nuevos TLD, 
 incluso los supuestamente nobles, indican que son, sin excepción, impulsados 
 por alguna combinación de vanidad y avaricia. 

 Estoy muy decepcionado de que ni ALAC ni nadie más en la burbuja de ICANN 
 - ni el GAC ni la grupa de la sociedad civil de la GNSO - trató de hacer incluso 
 un caso débil de interés público contra una nueva ronda. Cuando yo era 
 más profundamente involucrado en ALAC Traté de reunir apoyo para el caso contra 
 más delegaciones de TLD hasta que las consecuencias de la última ronda puedan ser 
 correctamente (e independientemente) analizado. El esfuerzo fracasó miserablemente y condujo 
 a mi alejándose. Todos tratan una nueva ronda como simplemente inevitable, 
 si alguien fuera del cartel de dominio realmente lo quiere. Cada vez que yo 
 escucho el término "subpro" tengo que sonreírme a mí mismo porque lo leí como un 
 abreviatura de "menos que profesional", que de hecho creo que es el 
 caso para ese grupo cuando se trata de considerar el interés público. 

 La inevitable marcha hacia nuevas rondas, ya sean necesarias o no, ofrece 
 Un claro recordatorio del aislamiento total de la burbuja de ICANN (incluido ALAC) 
 del mundo exterior La intervención de California AG en .ORG 
 debería haber sido una llamada de atención a este aislamiento, pero parece tener 
 volcado Así que vuelve a la normalidad ... hasta la próxima vez que 
 AG interviene. Jonathan tenía razón en que la intervención de AG en .ORG fue un 
 precedente peligroso, pero ... ¿peligroso para quién? 

 Ahora sabemos que hay límites para la tolerancia mundial de ICANN 
 perversión del multiactor. ¿Qué tan pronto hasta la próxima vez que estos 
 los límites son probados? 

 Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canadá 
 @evanleibovitch / @ el56 

 El jueves 9 de julio de 2020 a las 04:47, Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn>
 escribió: 

> Hi Alan,
>
> So, that's it: you want us to ask the addition of the geo-name nature of
> the string applied for as a criterion for the CPE to decide whether the
> application is Community one or not.
>
> In my opinion, it's absolutely irrelevent. Any geo-name could be applied
> for by a commercial entity, a government or a community. The fact that it
> is a geo-name shouldn't give more credit to the applicat even if it is a
> community. Any application is not more community one when it is for the
> geo-name string.
>
> Tijani
>
>
> Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> a écrit :
>
> Many geoname TLDs delegated in the last round were in fact community
> applications (although I don't know if any went through the CPE since that
> only happens if they are contested.
>
> The question here is that IF you are applying for a geoname, and IF you
> are applying as a community TLD, then should you get extra points under the
> CPE because it is a geoname (that is, it improves your chances of
> satisfying the CPE and thus winning over some other applicant.
>
> I am not sure we have a strong case for getting this approved, nor am I
> sure it is even worth the effort to try, but I see it as a good thing if we
> could.
>
> Alan
>
>
> At 2020-07-08 11:50 AM, Tijani BEN JEMAA wrote:
>
> Dear Jonathan and all,
>
> Following up on our discussion today during the CPWG call about the
> geo-names, I would like to explain why I donâ€™t think that geo-names
> should be incorporated into the CPWG evaluation.
> In fact, the CPE role is to evaluate whether the application is a
> community application or not (this is what Alan explained and what I agreed
> on). So how it might be incorporated? as a criterion to decide if the
> application is a community application? Shall we request that if the
> application is for a geo-name string, the CPE should consider it as a
> community application?
> The CPE evaluates if the applicant represents a community and if the
> application serves that community whatever the string applied for is
> (geo-name, language name, culture name, etc.).
>
> Tijani
>
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