[lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] [CPWG] REMINDER / Meeting invitation: At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call on Wednesday, 08 July 2020 at 13:00 UTC

Thu Jul 9 15:22:00 UTC 2020

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Cher Christopher, 

 Merci pour ta réponse. 
 Je comprende ton point de vue, mais es-tu sûr que nous allons vers une plus big protection? Ou au moins est-ce que At-Large va dans ce sens là? Tu como vu le résultat du survey hier au CPWG? (Moins de protection et communauté). 
 En tout cas, moi je regarde ce qui c'est passé jusque là: Le cas le plus flagrant est dot Amazone. 

 De toute façon, le fait qu'un string es un nombre geográfico ne peut pas favoriser ou desfavoriser une Community application à mon avis. Ca ne peut pas être un critère pour le CPE pour décider si una aplicación es comunautaire ou pas. 

 Bonne soirée. 

> Le 9 juil. 2020 à 13:56, mail at christopherwilkinson.eu CW <mail at christopherwilkinson.eu> a écrit :
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> Cher Tijani : Je ne peux pas être d'accord avec toi sur ce point.
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> Nous n'avons plus d'affaire avec « …a commercial entity, a government or a community »
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> Désormais il s'agit de protéger - d'une manière ou d'un autre – les véritables demandes provenant des pays et des communités locales contre les entités hybrides Registry/Registrar qui :
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> - bénéficient des règles actuelles d'intégration verticale
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> - ont les projets de constituer des portefeuilles spéculatives de TLD géographiques
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> - qui peuvent faire appel à des resources financiers tiers, notamment lorsqu'il s'agit des sûr en chères, et
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> - qui exploitent les règles trop souples du WT5 en matière de l'utilisation géographique des gTLD.
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> Tout cela sera discuté en profondeur bientôt par le CPWG.
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> Entre temps, « cave emptor »
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> Bien à toi
> 
> Christopher
> 
>> El 9 de julio de 2020 a las 10:46 Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn> escribió: 
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>> Hi Alan,
>> 
>> So, that's it: you want us to ask the addition of the geo-name nature of the string applied for as a criterion for the CPE to decide whether the application is Community one or not.
>> 
>> In my opinion, it's absolutely irrelevent. Any geo-name could be applied for by a commercial entity, a government or a community. The fact that it is a geo-name shouldn't give more credit to the applicat even if it is a community. Any application is not more community one when it is for the geo-name string.
>> 
>> Tijani
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>> Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>> a écrit :
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>>> Many geoname TLDs delegated in the last round were in fact community applications (although I don't know if any went through the CPE since that only happens if they are contested.
>>> 
>>> The question here is that IF you are applying for a geoname, and IF you are applying as a community TLD, then should you get extra points under the CPE because it is a geoname (that is, it improves your chances of satisfying the CPE and thus winning over some other applicant.
>>> 
>>> I am not sure we have a strong case for getting this approved, nor am I sure it is even worth the effort to try, but I see it as a good thing if we could.
>>> 
>>> Alan
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>>> At 2020-07-08 11:50 AM, Tijani BEN JEMAA wrote:
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>>>> Dear Jonathan and all,
>>>> 
>>>> Following up on our discussion today during the CPWG call about the geo-names, I would like to explain why I donâ€™t think that geo-names should be incorporated into the CPWG evaluation.
>>>> In fact, the CPE role is to evaluate whether the application is a community application or not (this is what Alan explained and what I agreed on). So how it might be incorporated? as a criterion to decide if the application is a community application? Shall we request that if the application is for a geo-name string, the CPE should consider it as a community application?
>>>> The CPE evaluates if the applicant represents a community and if the application serves that community whatever the string applied for is (geo-name, language name, culture name, etc.).
>>>> 
>>>> Tijani
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