[EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM

Jean-Jacques Subrenat jjs at dyalog.net
Sat May 9 08:33:10 UTC 2020


And I, as a former member of the ICANN Board, also support the arguments from Sandra, Tatian, Yrjö et al.
Best regards,
Jean-Jacques.


Le 9 mai 2020 à 10:31:06, Yrjö Länsipuro (yrjo_lansipuro at hotmail.com) a écrit:

Dear all,

From the perspective of my six NomCom years, I strongly support the arguments of Sandra,Tatiana &al about the need of experience in NomCom, and support Bastiaan for the job.

Best,

Yrjö

On 9. May 2020, at 9.42, Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com> wrote:

I totally agree with Tatiana, and strongly support Bastiaan.

Julf

On 08-05-2020 23:13, Tatiana Tropina wrote:
Dear all,

as an individual member of EURALO and as someone who has been
involved with ICANN for quite some time, I would like to fully and
vocally support the nomination of Bastiaan for the NomCom. 
What Sandra said is very much true: NomCom is not for the newcomers or
for those who have been around for a couple of years. NomCom selects
people for positions that are crucial for the functioning of the
organizations. From outreach to various parts of the community to
understand how the Board, GNSO, ccNSO function, and being able to
actually carry out the interviews and deliberate -- it is absolutely
essential that the person is mature and experienced and has a
proven track record of devoting significant time to ICANN and actively
participating in the community. One needs to understand how community
works, what skills are needed for positions, and be able to assess the
applicants of quite a senior level. 
Bastiaan's technical and policy experience, his involvement in both
ICANN (and his proven track record of active participation) and a
broader internet community make him a great candidate that can really
represent EURALO and At-Large community "At-Large" on NomCom. So, thanks
to Annette for the nomination, this is a great one. 

Warm regards,
Tatiana Tropina 

On Fri, 8 May 2020 at 22:52, <info at hoferichter.eu
<mailto:info at hoferichter.eu>> wrote:

   Thank you Heidi, for re-posting. Later on I saw it was also further
   down the original announcement.____

   __ __

   To bring more light into the criteria’s I share with you the number
   of hours I spent on NomCom from November 2016 when I took seat until
   June 2018 when our work was finished. You can deduct, let’s say 30 h
   per year, for my work on the ICANN Academy – but the rest was only
   NomCom related work. Wolfgang who is currently on the NomCom for
   NCUC reports a similar number. That might help candidates to
   understand a bit better how much work load it entails.____

   __ __

   Whilst I fully agree to bring in newcomers to the ALAC - the
   delegation to NomCom is a senior position and needs more than 2-3
   ICANN Meeting experiences. ____

   __ __

   Therefore I whole heartily support Annette’s proposal to nominate
   Bastiaan Goslings! He hast two terms of ALAC experience (6 years)
   and has in addition a big foot in the technical community.____

   __ __

   Best Sandra____

   __ __

   __ __

   *Von:*Mühlberg, Annette <annette.muehlberg at verdi.de
   <mailto:annette.muehlberg at verdi.de>>
   *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 21:16
   *An:* Heidi Ullrich <Heidi.Ullrich at icann.org
   <mailto:Heidi.Ullrich at icann.org>>; info at hoferichter.eu
   <mailto:info at hoferichter.eu>; euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
   <mailto:euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
   *Cc:* Bastiaan Goslings <bastiaan.goslings at ams-ix.net
   <mailto:bastiaan.goslings at ams-ix.net>>
   *Betreff:* AW: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR
   NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM____

   __ __

   Dear All,____

   thank you Heidi for clarifying the criteria. ____

   As Bastiaan decided not to continue as an ALAC member, he might be
   interested in a new type of work within ICANN. He is familiar with
   „the ICANN groups to which the NomCom appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO,
   ccNSO)“ and did a good job in the ALAC.____

   I did not have the chance to talk with him yet, but to keep the
   deadline today I would like to nominate Bastiaan Goslings for the
   ALAC DELEGATE TO THE NOMCOM.____

   All the best____

   Annette____

   __ __

   *Von:* EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
   <mailto:euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>> *Im Auftrag
   von *Heidi Ullrich
   *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 20:02
   *An:* info at hoferichter.eu <mailto:info at hoferichter.eu>;
   euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
   <mailto:euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
   *Betreff:* Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR
   NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM____

   __ __

   Dear All, ____

   __ __

   As requested by Sandra, please see the criteria for NomCom
   Delegates. ____

   __ __

   _IMPORTANT: Criteria for NomCom Delegates

   _The NomCom is responsible for selecting members of the ICANN Board,
   ALAC, ccNSO and GNSO. This is a very important function and all
   candidates should meet important criteria.____

   __·       __Familiarity with the ICANN groups to which the NomCom
   appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO, ccNSO).____

   __·       __Ability to judge people (such as when interviewing and
   hiring).____

   __·       __Comfortable and preferably fluent with English
   (listening, reading, speaking).____

   __·       __Good on-line skills such as on Google & Social media____

   __·       __Time Commitment - Must be willing to devote substantial
   time under tight deadlines (March-June). Will involve travel to up
   to 4 meetings.____

   __·       __Ability work in a group environment, standing up for
   what you believe in a discussion with other "strong" people, but at
   the same time, must be a good listener and be willing to change your
   mind if someone else has a good argument. Diplomacy is important.____

   __ __

   Also, RALOs may recommend one or more candidates to the ALAC. The
   appointment if NomCom delegates is carried out by the ALAC.
   Therefore, RALO recommendations are not binding.____

   __ __

   Kind regards,____

   Heidi____

   __ __

   __ __

   *From: *EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
   <mailto:euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on behalf of
   sandra hoferichter <info at hoferichter.eu <mailto:info at hoferichter.eu>>
   *Date: *Friday, 8 May 2020 at 4:32 AM
   *To: *"euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
   <mailto:euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>"
   <euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
   <mailto:euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>>
   *Subject: *Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR
   NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM____

   __ __

   Hi Clement, to my knowledge the ALAC has drafted such a document.
   Staff could point to that. It was drafted at the time I was on the
   NomCom, and I was asked for input.____

   Since 2016 EURALO had only newcomers to the NomCom myself and Erich,
   but both heavily involved for many years in the At-Large community. ____

   Beside the names you mentioned there were other nominations on the
   list. ____

   Best Sandra____

    ____

    ____

    ____

   *Von:* Dr Clement Genty <Clement at Genty.info
   <mailto:Clement at Genty.info>>
   *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 13:05
   *An:* info at hoferichter.eu <mailto:info at hoferichter.eu>
   *Cc:* euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
   <mailto:euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
   *Betreff:* Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR
   NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM____

    ____

   Hi Sandra, Hi All,____

   Is think that we have an interesting point here:____

   Should we select someone with experience or try with someone new?____

   If the position at Nomcom requires experience, why not make it
   mandatory?____

   By operating this way we will always have the same heads at Euralo
   and that is really problematic. Apart from Matthias and Anne-Marie,
   I don't see any young people who have taken the plunge?____

   Then yes of course, Olivier is Sebastien's son and that could be
   seen as nepotism but Olivier knows the subject and Seb is just one
   voice among many others!____

   This message comes to you today from an old country, France, who has
   elected a president who's never been elected before, not even in a
   small municipal election. And France has elected half of its
   deputies who have no political experience.____

   And it is quite working smile____

   My two cents,____

   Clement____

    ____

   Le 08.05.2020 12:48, info at hoferichter.eu
   <mailto:info at hoferichter.eu> a écrit :____

       Dear all, please don't misunderstand my intervention here as a
       personal attract to nominations, but I think we have to clarify
       that we should only send VERY experienced At-Large Community
       members, that know the community in and out, have a lot of
       personal contacts across constituencies and have understood how
       ICANN functions in depth. In depth means also understand the
       dynamics that are nowhere written in a guide book and that you
       don't get from a distance.____

       On top it is a very time consuming task. Having been on NomCom
       from 2016-2018 I can truly say so.____

        ____

       The power of ALAC comes via the NomCom because we have 5 seats
       there (more than any other AC/SO/SG) that decide over the key
       personnel at ICANN.____

       Lets use this power wisely!____

        ____

       My two cents____

       Sandra ____

        ____

   -- ____

   Dr Clement Genty
   Meursault (Côte d'Or) - France____


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