[EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM

Johan Helsingius julf at julf.com
Sat May 9 06:42:14 UTC 2020


I totally agree with Tatiana, and strongly support Bastiaan.

	Julf

On 08-05-2020 23:13, Tatiana Tropina wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> as an individual member of EURALO and as someone who has been
> involved with ICANN for quite some time, I would like to fully and
> vocally support the nomination of Bastiaan for the NomCom. 
> What Sandra said is very much true: NomCom is not for the newcomers or
> for those who have been around for a couple of years. NomCom selects
> people for positions that are crucial for the functioning of the
> organizations. From outreach to various parts of the community to
> understand how the Board, GNSO, ccNSO function, and being able to
> actually carry out the interviews and deliberate -- it is absolutely
> essential that the person is mature and experienced and has a
> proven track record of devoting significant time to ICANN and actively
> participating in the community. One needs to understand how community
> works, what skills are needed for positions, and be able to assess the
> applicants of quite a senior level. 
> Bastiaan's technical and policy experience, his involvement in both
> ICANN (and his proven track record of active participation) and a
> broader internet community make him a great candidate that can really
> represent EURALO and At-Large community "At-Large" on NomCom. So, thanks
> to Annette for the nomination, this is a great one. 
> 
> Warm regards,
> Tatiana Tropina 
> 
> On Fri, 8 May 2020 at 22:52, <info at hoferichter.eu
> <mailto:info at hoferichter.eu>> wrote:
> 
>     Thank you Heidi, for re-posting. Later on I saw it was also further
>     down the original announcement.____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     To bring more light into the criteria’s I share with you the number
>     of hours I spent on NomCom from November 2016 when I took seat until
>     June 2018 when our work was finished. You can deduct, let’s say 30 h
>     per year, for my work on the ICANN Academy – but the rest was only
>     NomCom related work. Wolfgang who is currently on the NomCom for
>     NCUC reports a similar number. That might help candidates to
>     understand a bit better how much work load it entails.____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     Whilst I fully agree to bring in newcomers to the ALAC - the
>     delegation to NomCom is a senior position and needs more than 2-3
>     ICANN Meeting experiences. ____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     Therefore I whole heartily support Annette’s proposal to nominate
>     Bastiaan Goslings! He hast two terms of ALAC experience (6 years)
>     and has in addition a big foot in the technical community.____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     Best Sandra____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     *Von:*Mühlberg, Annette <annette.muehlberg at verdi.de
>     <mailto:annette.muehlberg at verdi.de>>
>     *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 21:16
>     *An:* Heidi Ullrich <Heidi.Ullrich at icann.org
>     <mailto:Heidi.Ullrich at icann.org>>; info at hoferichter.eu
>     <mailto:info at hoferichter.eu>; euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>     <mailto:euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>     *Cc:* Bastiaan Goslings <bastiaan.goslings at ams-ix.net
>     <mailto:bastiaan.goslings at ams-ix.net>>
>     *Betreff:* AW: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR
>     NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     Dear All,____
> 
>     thank you Heidi for clarifying the criteria. ____
> 
>     As Bastiaan decided not to continue as an ALAC member, he might be
>     interested in a new type of work within ICANN. He is familiar with
>     „the ICANN groups to which the NomCom appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO,
>     ccNSO)“ and did a good job in the ALAC.____
> 
>     I did not have the chance to talk with him yet, but to keep the
>     deadline today I would like to nominate Bastiaan Goslings for the
>     ALAC DELEGATE TO THE NOMCOM.____
> 
>     All the best____
> 
>     Annette____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     *Von:* EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>     <mailto:euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>> *Im Auftrag
>     von *Heidi Ullrich
>     *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 20:02
>     *An:* info at hoferichter.eu <mailto:info at hoferichter.eu>;
>     euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>     <mailto:euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>     *Betreff:* Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR
>     NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     Dear All, ____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     As requested by Sandra, please see the criteria for NomCom
>     Delegates. ____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     _IMPORTANT: Criteria for NomCom Delegates
> 
>     _The NomCom is responsible for selecting members of the ICANN Board,
>     ALAC, ccNSO and GNSO. This is a very important function and all
>     candidates should meet important criteria.____
> 
>     __·       __Familiarity with the ICANN groups to which the NomCom
>     appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO, ccNSO).____
> 
>     __·       __Ability to judge people (such as when interviewing and
>     hiring).____
> 
>     __·       __Comfortable and preferably fluent with English
>     (listening, reading, speaking).____
> 
>     __·       __Good on-line skills such as on Google & Social media____
> 
>     __·       __Time Commitment - Must be willing to devote substantial
>     time under tight deadlines (March-June). Will involve travel to up
>     to 4 meetings.____
> 
>     __·       __Ability work in a group environment, standing up for
>     what you believe in a discussion with other "strong" people, but at
>     the same time, must be a good listener and be willing to change your
>     mind if someone else has a good argument. Diplomacy is important.____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     Also, RALOs may recommend one or more candidates to the ALAC. The
>     appointment if NomCom delegates is carried out by the ALAC.
>     Therefore, RALO recommendations are not binding.____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     Kind regards,____
> 
>     Heidi____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     *From: *EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>     <mailto:euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on behalf of
>     sandra hoferichter <info at hoferichter.eu <mailto:info at hoferichter.eu>>
>     *Date: *Friday, 8 May 2020 at 4:32 AM
>     *To: *"euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>     <mailto:euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>"
>     <euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>     <mailto:euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>>
>     *Subject: *Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR
>     NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     Hi Clement, to my knowledge the ALAC has drafted such a document.
>     Staff could point to that. It was drafted at the time I was on the
>     NomCom, and I was asked for input.____
> 
>     Since 2016 EURALO had only newcomers to the NomCom myself and Erich,
>     but both heavily involved for many years in the At-Large community. ____
> 
>     Beside the names you mentioned there were other nominations on the
>     list. ____
> 
>     Best Sandra____
> 
>      ____
> 
>      ____
> 
>      ____
> 
>     *Von:* Dr Clement Genty <Clement at Genty.info
>     <mailto:Clement at Genty.info>>
>     *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 13:05
>     *An:* info at hoferichter.eu <mailto:info at hoferichter.eu>
>     *Cc:* euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>     <mailto:euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>     *Betreff:* Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR
>     NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM____
> 
>      ____
> 
>     Hi Sandra, Hi All,____
> 
>     Is think that we have an interesting point here:____
> 
>     Should we select someone with experience or try with someone new?____
> 
>     If the position at Nomcom requires experience, why not make it
>     mandatory?____
> 
>     By operating this way we will always have the same heads at Euralo
>     and that is really problematic. Apart from Matthias and Anne-Marie,
>     I don't see any young people who have taken the plunge?____
> 
>     Then yes of course, Olivier is Sebastien's son and that could be
>     seen as nepotism but Olivier knows the subject and Seb is just one
>     voice among many others!____
> 
>     This message comes to you today from an old country, France, who has
>     elected a president who's never been elected before, not even in a
>     small municipal election. And France has elected half of its
>     deputies who have no political experience.____
> 
>     And it is quite working smile____
> 
>     My two cents,____
> 
>     Clement____
> 
>      ____
> 
>     Le 08.05.2020 12:48, info at hoferichter.eu
>     <mailto:info at hoferichter.eu> a écrit :____
> 
>         Dear all, please don't misunderstand my intervention here as a
>         personal attract to nominations, but I think we have to clarify
>         that we should only send VERY experienced At-Large Community
>         members, that know the community in and out, have a lot of
>         personal contacts across constituencies and have understood how
>         ICANN functions in depth. In depth means also understand the
>         dynamics that are nowhere written in a guide book and that you
>         don't get from a distance.____
> 
>         On top it is a very time consuming task. Having been on NomCom
>         from 2016-2018 I can truly say so.____
> 
>          ____
> 
>         The power of ALAC comes via the NomCom because we have 5 seats
>         there (more than any other AC/SO/SG) that decide over the key
>         personnel at ICANN.____
> 
>         Lets use this power wisely!____
> 
>          ____
> 
>         My two cents____
> 
>         Sandra ____
> 
>          ____
> 
>     -- ____
> 
>     Dr Clement Genty
>     Meursault (Côte d'Or) - France____
> 
> 
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