[At-Large] IDN Variants in the market place
Sivasubramanian M
6.Internet at gmail.com
Fri Jul 20 18:55:20 UTC 2018
On Sat, Jul 21, 2018, 12:19 AM Alejandro Pisanty <apisanty at gmail.com> wrote:
> Barry,
>
> spot on, plus the idea of a list of forbidden strings appears to be pure
> lunacy in this context.
>
All strings are potentially an attack for any substitution of any character
> by any IDN look-alike character. The list would contain a couple zillion
> names and as you say, many could be legtimate. To complicate things
> further, an ASCII "A" could be used in an homograph attack by substituting
> for a Greek or Cyrillic "A" as well.
>
> I may be missing something and would study a correction though.
>
for the Registries, at least in the ASCII space, to volunteer to feed their
respective list of harmful names
You missed 'at least in ASCII space'.
> Alejandro Pisanty
>
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 1:37 PM, <bzs at theworld.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On July 19, 2018 at 15:48 6.Internet at gmail.com (Sivasubramanian M) wrote:
>> > Please take a look at the attached screenshot of a domainer's offer to
>> sell
>> > single character IDNs, for instance an IDN variant (lookalike) of the
>> ASCII
>> > character X, which sets a harmful trend. This is an issue if
>> confusability.
>>
>> The general term for this is "homograph attack" or specifically "IDN
>> homograph attack", where "attack" may be in the eye of the beholder:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IDN_homograph_attack
>>
>> and has been the subject of much discussion over recent years and
>> little resolution.
>>
>> I believe one popular proposal is browser support which either
>> visually flags such IDNs or displays the punycode alongside which is
>> an ASCII represenation and should make obvious that this not what one
>> might suspect.
>>
>> For example (from this wikipedia page): xn--bcher-kva.tld indicating
>> an umlauted 'u' is in there but importantly that it's not just
>> bucher.tld.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punycode
>>
>> There's still the problem with intent. Could I legitimately offer for
>> sale the strings with and without the umlaut? I think that's generally
>> considered acceptable.
>>
>> Caveat emptor?
>>
>> >
>> > I understand that the Registries (are required to?) maintain a list of
>> harmful
>> > names for their TLDs, but there is no common minimal list of harmful
>> names. One
>> > possible way to achieve this is for the Registries, at least in the
>> ASCII
>> > space, to volunteer to feed their respective list of harmful names
>> into a
>> > common Registry Stakeholder database, and then draw up a common
>> minimum list of
>> > harmful domain names that any Registry could avoid registering.
>> >
>> > If At-Large could shape this as a workable suggestion, it could
>> formally go to
>> > the Registry Stakeholders.
>> >
>> > Sivasubramanian M
>> > x[DELETED ATTACHMENT Screenshot_20180719-152932~2.png, PNG image]
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