[At-Large] IDN Variants in the market place

Alejandro Pisanty apisanty at gmail.com
Fri Jul 20 18:48:17 UTC 2018


Barry,

spot on, plus the idea of a list of forbidden strings appears to be pure
lunacy in this context. All strings are potentially an attack for any
substitution of any character by any IDN look-alike character. The list
would contain a couple zillion names and as you say, many could be
legtimate. To complicate things further, an ASCII "A" could be used in an
homograph attack by substituting for a Greek or Cyrillic "A" as well.

I may be missing something and would study a correction though.

Alejandro Pisanty

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 1:37 PM, <bzs at theworld.com> wrote:

>
> On July 19, 2018 at 15:48 6.Internet at gmail.com (Sivasubramanian M) wrote:
>  > Please take a look at the attached screenshot of a domainer's offer to
> sell
>  > single character IDNs, for instance an IDN variant (lookalike) of the
> ASCII
>  > character X, which sets a harmful trend. This is an issue if
> confusability.
>
> The general term for this is "homograph attack" or specifically "IDN
> homograph attack", where "attack" may be in the eye of the beholder:
>
>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IDN_homograph_attack
>
> and has been the subject of much discussion over recent years and
> little resolution.
>
> I believe one popular proposal is browser support which either
> visually flags such IDNs or displays the punycode alongside which is
> an ASCII represenation and should make obvious that this not what one
> might suspect.
>
> For example (from this wikipedia page): xn--bcher-kva.tld indicating
> an umlauted 'u' is in there but importantly that it's not just
> bucher.tld.
>
>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punycode
>
> There's still the problem with intent. Could I legitimately offer for
> sale the strings with and without the umlaut? I think that's generally
> considered acceptable.
>
> Caveat emptor?
>
>  >
>  > I understand that the Registries (are required to?) maintain a list of
> harmful
>  > names for their TLDs, but there is no common minimal list of harmful
> names. One
>  > possible way to achieve this is for the Registries, at least in the
> ASCII
>  > space, to volunteer to feed their respective list of harmful names into
> a
>  > common Registry Stakeholder database, and then draw up a common minimum
> list of
>  > harmful domain names that any Registry could avoid registering.
>  >
>  > If At-Large could shape this as a workable suggestion, it could
> formally go to
>  > the Registry Stakeholders.
>  >
>  > Sivasubramanian M
>  > x[DELETED ATTACHMENT Screenshot_20180719-152932~2.png, PNG image]
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