[At-Large] [lac-discuss-en] They're out of IPv4 Addresses!
Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro
salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com
Sun Sep 16 21:18:20 UTC 2012
These are the transcripts (easy reading) of what Geoff Huston said at the
APNIC 32 Opening Plenary in Bussan, South Korea. I was in the audience and
enjoyed it, see:
from IPv4 to IPv6 #Google #NATs #Access ]
These are links to some of Geoff's papers:
- On the Content economy, his views published on his website in 2001,
- On Carriage v Content, his views published on his website in July,
2012, see: http://www.potaroo.net/ispcol/2012-07/carriagevcontent.html.
He talks briefly about ITRs and ETNO proposal in relation to the ITRs
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Holly Raiche <h.raiche at internode.on.net>wrote:
> Hi John
> I can't verify Geoff's technical explanation, but he did work for Telstra
> as one of their star technical people and he is chief scientist with APNIC.
> And I did use the term carrier but, to be more precise, ISPs in this
> country are also carriers - which may not be the case in other legislative
> regimes. As to privacy, the other point Geoff makes is that what is
> happening is contrary to the Interception legislation - or should be
> considered so. The difficulty with privacy legislation (not just in
> Australia) is the definition of 'personal information' which is the
> lynchpin of whether or not privacy has been breached. Does it include
> phone numbers and IP addresses. There are suggested amendments to the
> privacy legislation here that would, in essence, include information - that
> combined with other information, can identify a person (paraphrased) But
> one of the privacy issues is how personal information - that which is being
> protected - is defined.
> On 17/09/2012, at 2:42 AM, John R. Levine wrote:
> >> As he explains, with NATing, the carriers gain information about what
> IP addresses are going where - information they can flog to advertisers.
> > This argument makes no sense. A snoopy ISP could as easily collect this
> information from non-NAT routers as from NAT boxes.
> > In Australia, I would have thought that privacy laws would make selling
> that kind of information illegal. In the US they use noxious services like
> phorm to collect and sell info, no NAT needed.
> > R's,
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