[At-Large] RES: Summary of Trademark Clearing House Meeting [Remote Streaming]

Vanda UOL vanda at uol.com.br
Thu Aug 30 20:22:52 UTC 2012

Hi Rudi
 Thanks for sharing these points.  I have understood , during meetings
discussion, just the opposite. Registries will pay few bucks and the system
will set up by the trademark owners to avoid the use of their own names. 

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[mailto:at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome de Rudi Vansnick
Enviada em: terça-feira, 21 de agosto de 2012 13:34
Para: At-Large Worldwide
Cc: ALAC Working List
Assunto: Re: [At-Large] Summary of Trademark Clearing House Meeting [Remote

Dear all,

When reading through the Trademark Clearinghouse: Preliminary Cost Model
(version 1 June 2012) I was surprised reading the following paragraph :

> Services to Registries
> Initial implementation and fee discussions indicate that registries will
pay for access to the Clearinghouse database. Further details are still
being worked out; however, initial estimates based on currently available
information indicate that a set-up fee of USD 7,000 - 10,000 will be due per
TLD registry. The set-up fee would cover Sunrise and Trademark Claims
processes as established by ICANN, as well as assistance in integration and
testing. Additional fees will be due in other circumstances such as
participation in other programs or ancillary services.

Does this mean the registries do have to pay for the services that are of
benefit to the Trademark owners ? In the previous paragraph is mentioned :
> Services to Rightsholders 
> The primary services offered to rights holders are: (1) authentication as
a trademark and (2) validation of proof-of-use. The first establishes that
rights information meets the criteria for Clearinghouse inclusion and the
second establishes that a Clearinghouse record meets the standard for
Sunrise eligibility as described by ICANN, i.e., demonstration of use of the
trademark. A bundled fee is expected where these services are performed
together. Proof of use validation would also be available at an individual
price if such is requested subsequent to the original submission of rights
data for authentication. 
> The bundled fee or price for these initial services (authentication and
validation) is expected to be less than USD 150 per submission. Annual
renewal fees for Clearinghouse records are expected at a percentage of the
initial price. The low fee requires that submissions be inexpensive and
straightforward to process. Complex circumstances and additional services
will add to the cost. 
> There may be additional charges if further scrutiny is required (such as a
re-submission due to errors in the original submission or an appeal to the
initial Clearinghouse determination). Also, non-electronic submissions might
be available at a higher rate in order to cover handling costs. 

As such I understand the Trademark owners just pay a very small fee to get
their name been protected while the majority of the cost is covered by the
registry, which in the end means the registrant will pay for it !! 

What's ALAC's position in this ?

Rudi Vansnick

Op 21-aug-2012, om 17:56 heeft Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro het volgende

> Dear All,
> There was a 2 day meeting which concluded today on Trademark Clearing Hose
> Draft Implementation Model that was tabled in Prague. There was much
> discussion stemming from the 2 day meeting that was productive. The
> recordings are available and hopefully will be posted on
> http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/about/trademark-
> For now here is my take on what occurred.
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