[At-Large] Summary of Trademark Clearing House Meeting [Remote Streaming]

Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com
Tue Aug 21 20:28:38 UTC 2012


Dear All,

In any regulatory model where infrastructure is being set up, in this case
a specific type of information infrastructure, there are serious costs
associated with it, whether they are CAPEX or OPEX costs. For those putting
in the investment, there is an expected return on investment whether this
is over a period of time or not. The complexity in what is being set up
lies in the fact that a data bank does not exist yet, in other worlds when
the queries are pumped into the system than they will form a baseline where
others can eventually draw or issue new searches etc. It is another thing
to make it interoperable where these queries can be run across multiple
registries. There are many other factors and variables to consider, for
instance, updating caches or lists and when that is going to be done.

They are at the moment brainstorming on the general architecture that it
should take from a technical operational standpoint to something that is
workable and efficient and that can be used. As you can imagine they have
to do this carefully because of the obligations that come with it. My view
is that we wait for them to work on their Version 2 which will be
significantly different from Version 1 as there were many things discussed
in the meeting as it was more like a directly affected stakeholder
consultation if you wish. Yes, we are stakeholders too and there is nothing
to stop us from joining the mailing list or reading the wiki etc but at
this stage, I would say we wait and analyse the Version 2 which will be
posted for comments and where other constituencies and advisory committees
will be asked for their perspective.

Of course this is not to stop us from working on a few things now.

Kind Regards,
Sala

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:33 AM, Rudi Vansnick <rudi.vansnick at isoc.be>wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> When reading through the Trademark Clearinghouse: Preliminary Cost Model
> (version 1 June 2012) I was surprised reading the following paragraph :
>
> > Services to Registries
> > Initial implementation and fee discussions indicate that registries will
> pay for access to the Clearinghouse database. Further details are still
> being worked out; however, initial estimates based on currently available
> information indicate that a set-up fee of USD 7,000 - 10,000 will be due
> per TLD registry. The set-up fee would cover Sunrise and Trademark Claims
> processes as established by ICANN, as well as assistance in integration and
> testing. Additional fees will be due in other circumstances such as
> participation in other programs or ancillary services.
>
> Does this mean the registries do have to pay for the services that are of
> benefit to the Trademark owners ? In the previous paragraph is mentioned :
>
> > Services to Rightsholders
> > The primary services offered to rights holders are: (1) authentication
> as a trademark and (2) validation of proof-of-use. The first establishes
> that rights information meets the criteria for Clearinghouse inclusion and
> the second establishes that a Clearinghouse record meets the standard for
> Sunrise eligibility as described by ICANN, i.e., demonstration of use of
> the trademark. A bundled fee is expected where these services are performed
> together. Proof of use validation would also be available at an individual
> price if such is requested subsequent to the original submission of rights
> data for authentication.
> > The bundled fee or price for these initial services (authentication and
> validation) is expected to be less than USD 150 per submission. Annual
> renewal fees for Clearinghouse records are expected at a percentage of the
> initial price. The low fee requires that submissions be inexpensive and
> straightforward to process. Complex circumstances and additional services
> will add to the cost.
> > There may be additional charges if further scrutiny is required (such as
> a re-submission due to errors in the original submission or an appeal to
> the initial Clearinghouse determination). Also, non-electronic submissions
> might be available at a higher rate in order to cover handling costs.
>
>
> As such I understand the Trademark owners just pay a very small fee to get
> their name been protected while the majority of the cost is covered by the
> registry, which in the end means the registrant will pay for it !!
>
> What's ALAC's position in this ?
>
>
> Rudi Vansnick
>
>
> Op 21-aug-2012, om 17:56 heeft Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro het volgende
> geschreven:
>
> > Dear All,
> >
> > There was a 2 day meeting which concluded today on Trademark Clearing
> Hose
> > Draft Implementation Model that was tabled in Prague. There was much
> > discussion stemming from the 2 day meeting that was productive. The
> > recordings are available and hopefully will be posted on
> > http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/about/trademark-
> >
> > For now here is my take on what occurred.
> >
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Suva
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