[At-Large] Protection of IOC/Red Cross Names at Top Level

[Avri Doria]

Hi,

Both IOC and IFRC have been given an exception for this round of new gTLDs by direct BoardStaff fiat, though it is against every previous policy recommendation and on the advice, for some meaning of 'advice', of just one AC.  I just do not understand why they would be granted anything further than that.

avri


On 2 Feb 2012, at 18:15, Michele Neylon :: Blacknight wrote:

> Evan
> On 2 Feb 2012, at 17:07, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
> 
>> Hi Michele,
>> 
>> Personally I'd prefer *no* exceptions, confident that conventional TLD
>> objection procedures would prevent any red-cross-related application to
>> come from anyone but the IFRC in Geneva or its authorized agents. I'd even
>> support the ALAC public-interest objection process used for this, and would
>> have no hesitation initiation the objection process myself in such a case.
> 
> Similar to my view so :)
> 
>> 
>> But the GAC seems hell-bent on having some kind of exception(s).
> 
> Agreed. 
> 
>> 
>> IIRC, the Red Cross is considered an exceptional institution. I was told by
>> people I trust that there was no concept of a non-profit corporation in
>> Japan before the Red Cross tried to establish, and there was a specific
>> vote in the Diet to allow it. So such exceptionalism is not without
>> precedent.
> 
> Interesting
> 
>> 
>> (And happy birthday, BTW!)
> 
> Thanks :)
> 
> Not for another 45 minutes here!
> 
>> 
>> - Evan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2 February 2012 10:37, Michele Neylon :: Blacknight <
>> michele at blacknight.ie> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2 Feb 2012, at 14:30, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Should ALAC have a stance on the TLD reservation of the Red Cross and
>>>> Olympic terms?
>>>> 
>>>> Personally, I think they should be handled differently. I have no problem
>>>> with the Red [Cross|Crescent|Diamond] names (and their multilingual and
>>> IDN
>>>> equivalents) being reserved because these are groups that do charitable
>>>> work and collect funds for relief of famines, natural disasters and other
>>>> emergencies.
>>>> 
>>>> OTOH, The international olympic movement, while non-profit, does not
>>>> collect emergency funds in the same way as the Red Cross. Furthermore, I
>>>> have seen olympic committees in various countries aggressively shut down
>>>> innocent users (like family-run Greek restaurants using "Olympic" in
>>> their
>>>> name) that are neither competing nor confusing with the athletic
>>>> organization.
>>>> 
>>>> (How soon before they go after the largest Greek airline?)
>>>> 
>>>> In any case, my own preference is to support reservation of the Red Cross
>>>> names but oppose similar protection offered to Olympic ones (and allow
>>>> contentious applications to be objected to in the appropriate way as
>>>> required).
>>> 
>>> Evan
>>> 
>>> How do you make a policy statement that gives one NGO "special status"
>>> without giving it to others?
>>> 
>>> I like your reasoning - just wondering how it could be worded to be narrow
>>> enough ..
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Michele in a personal capacity (if I have one .. )
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mr Michele Neylon
>>> Blacknight Solutions ♞
>>> Hosting & Colocation, Brand Protection
>>> ICANN Accredited Registrar
>>> http://www.blacknight.com/
>>> http://blog.blacknight.com/
>>> http://blacknight.biz
>>> http://mneylon.tel
>>> Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072
>>> US: 213-233-1612
>>> UK: 0844 484 9361
>>> Locall: 1850 929 929
>>> Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090
>>> Facebook: http://fb.me/blacknight
>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/mneylon
>>> -------------------------------
>>> Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty
>>> Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland  Company No.: 370845
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> At-Large mailing list
>>> At-Large at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
>>> 
>>> At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
>> _______________________________________________
>> At-Large mailing list
>> At-Large at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
>> 
>> At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org
> 
> Mr Michele Neylon
> Blacknight Solutions
> Hosting & Colocation, Brand Protection
> ICANN Accredited Registrar
> http://www.blacknight.com/
> http://blog.blacknight.com/
> http://blacknight.mobi/
> http://mneylon.tel
> Intl. +353 (0) 59  9183072
> US: 213-233-1612 
> UK: 0844 484 9361
> Locall: 1850 929 929
> Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/mneylon
> -------------------------------
> Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty
> Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland  Company No.: 370845
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> At-Large mailing list
> At-Large at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
> 
> At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org