[WHOIS-WG] [At-Large] Thick Whois

[Michele Neylon :: Blacknight]

Holly

Yes, but when discussing the entire "registration data" thing (I'm still trying to find a neat term that I'm happy with) there needs to be a clear distinction made between the two, which is what I was trying to express

My alter ego, ie. that private individual who has a life etc., has rights under EU law to privacy etc., which the current whois policy for most gTLDs blatantly ignores. 

And EU privacy laws are getting stricter if anything .. 

So my personal alter ego is delighted, but my public persona (the registrar) is not too happy with the current "status quo"

I'd also worry about an over reliance on the term "accuracy", though that's probably a debate for another time .. 

Regards

Michele

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From: Holly Raiche [h.raiche at internode.on.net]
Sent: 15 January 2013 21:55
To: Michele Neylon :: Blacknight
Cc: At-Large Worldwide; Whois-WG
Subject: Re: [WHOIS-WG] [At-Large]  Thick Whois

Hi Michele

I was referring to the Whois data because that is the data that must be publicly available - and raises legitimate privacy concerns.  There are other issues that may be raised by the registration data that may be collected, but not displayed - and you're right, they need to be discussed separately.

The point I was making about the Whois data is that WEIRDS will help address the privacy issues by providing a mechanism by which the correct Whois data can be provided, and then access to that data restricted (for accepted privacy reasons) while still providing access for legitimate law enforcement requirements (as is generally accepted under privacy laws)

Holly.


On 16/01/2013, at 8:42 AM, Michele Neylon :: Blacknight wrote:

> Holly, Carlton et al
>
> Reading over some of the comments from Holly and Carlton I think there's a small bit of potential confusion.
>
> Whois data and registrant/ registration data seem to be used as if they were interchangeable - they're not.
>
> Whois => gets displayed (at the moment)
> Registrant / registration data => what's collected which may (or may not) be displayed
>
> These two concepts or labels should be differentiated.
>
> There are currently two gTLDs that respect EU privacy law.
>
> One, .cat, relaunched their whois with the new policy last week, as was previously mentioned.
> The other, .tel, has been running their whois with full respect for EU privacy law since they launched AND they've always had a policy to allow LEA gain access when required.
>
> Regards
>
> Michele
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> Mr Michele Neylon
> Blacknight Solutions
> Hosting & Colocation, Brand Protection
> http://www.blacknight.com/
> http://blog.blacknight.com/
> http://mneylon.tel/
> Intl. +353 (0) 59  9183072
> Locall: 1850 929 929
> Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090
> Fax. +353 (0) 1 4811 763
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/mneylon
> -------------------------------
> Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty
> Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland  Company No.: 370845