[NA-Discuss] ARIN Policy on Community Networks

Marita Moll mmoll at ca.inter.net
Sun Jun 4 00:06:51 UTC 2017


As I said before, I think it would be wise to also work with the 
originators of this policy. We had a lunchtime meeting with David Farmer 
and one other person I can't remember. They may already have put 
something together.

I could contact Alyssa unless this has already been done.

Marita


On 6/3/2017 4:48 PM, Leah Symekher wrote:
> Hello:
>
> This was my understanding too as noted below by Marita and Susannah.  
> I agree with Susannah's proposed approach.
>
> Leah
>
> On 6/1/17 12:46 PM, Susannah Gray wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Perhaps we should contact the policy 'shepherds' and ask how we can 
>> put forward a new definition for consideration. I think it should be 
>> as simple as posting a proposed new definition to the ARIN policy 
>> mailing list and asking the community for comments.
>>
>> As far as I am aware the policy has not been changed because there 
>> was no consensus gained during ARIN39 to remove the clause about 
>> community networks, mainly due to the comments made by the NARALO 
>> representatives. So, the policy will be discussed again at the next 
>> meeting in San Jose in October, and it would be a good idea to 
>> circulate a proposed definition before then.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Susannah
>>
>>
>> On 01/06/2017 06:07, Marita Moll wrote:
>>>
>>> We already did provide an intervention -- at the meeting itself. The 
>>> result was that the policy was not to be removed at the moment and 
>>> that the definition of community networks (i.e. the demand that they 
>>> be totally volunteer driven) should be revisited.
>>>
>>> At least, that's how I remember it.
>>>
>>> Marita
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/1/2017 3:02 AM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> Leslie Noble made mention of the Community Network Policy Update
>>>>
>>>> ARIN Removal of Community Network Policy
>>>> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_2.html
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps we need to chat about this and be prepared to provide an 
>>>> intervention.  Perhaps led by Shelly and Marita  who are experts on 
>>>> community networks
>>>>
>>>> My own focus is very small community network(mesh)
>>>> G
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Glenn McKnight
>>>> mcknight.glenn at gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
>>>> skype  gmcknight
>>>> twitter gmcknight
>>>> 289-830 6259
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Susannah Gray 
>>>> <susannah.gray at gmail.com <mailto:susannah.gray at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Hi Marita
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 31/05/2017 05:29, Marita Moll wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Thanks Glenn. Could you elaborate (or offer a link) on the
>>>>>     reference to FIRE -- some comnet funding in place for Uganda &
>>>>>     South Africa.
>>>>>
>>>>     - www.fireafrica.org <http://www.fireafrica.org>. It's
>>>>     AFRINIC's grant/award program. They fund all sorts of projects
>>>>     that use the Internet to solve local ICT issues. The two
>>>>     community network projects mentioned are:
>>>>
>>>>     Tobesta (ZA):
>>>>     https://www.afrinic.net/fr/library/news/1909-fire-awards-winners-2016
>>>>     <https://www.afrinic.net/fr/library/news/1909-fire-awards-winners-2016>
>>>>
>>>>     Bosco (Uganda): http://fireafrica.org/grant-awards-winners-2016
>>>>     <http://fireafrica.org/grant-awards-winners-2016>
>>>>
>>>>     Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>     Susannah
>>>>
>>>>>     Marita
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 5/31/2017 4:24 AM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
>>>>>>     Hi
>>>>>>     If you recall at the last  ARIN meeting we saw many of our
>>>>>>      NARALO members comment on the   ARIN Community Networks policy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     See policy document
>>>>>>     https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_232_orig.html
>>>>>>     <https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_232_orig.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     I spoke with ARIN staff about their programs on community
>>>>>>     networks  today and they too are struggling with fee
>>>>>>     structure for AFRNIC Membership from community networks.  
>>>>>>     Note they fund  FIRE  which has funded community networks in
>>>>>>     Uganda and in South Africa.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Perhaps  we need to ask our community to request financial
>>>>>>     support for ARIN for community networks as well.
>>>>>>     Comments?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Glenn McKnight
>>>>>>     mcknight.glenn at gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
>>>>>>     skype  gmcknight
>>>>>>     twitter gmcknight
>>>>>>     289-830 6259 <tel:%28289%29%20830-6259>
>>>>>>     .
>>>>>>
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