[NA-Discuss] [lac-discuss-en] REMINDER: COMMENTS REQUESTED: Proposed At-Large Vision Statement - Deadline for Comments 17 May

Fri May 18 14:54:40 UTC 2012

+1 to Jacqueline's comments

+2 to Carlton's meta-comments

- Evan

On 18 May 2012 10:32, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com> wrote:

> Y'all know I find these things gimmicky and IMHO, not worth a hill of gully
> beans.
>
> The Committee is wrong-headed on this. If you look at it, the bye-laws
> state the reason and care well enough already.
>
> We must encourage our colleagues to read some more, especially the
> foundation instruments. And these labels just don't cut it!
>
> All this aside, I cannot compete with Jacqueline's - cum Alan's - analysis.
>
> +1.
> -Carlton
>
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> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Jacqueline Morris <
> jam at jacquelinemorris.com
> > wrote:
>
> > I agree with Alan, and think  that the details of Board member
> > selection and so on are not particularly suited to a vision statement.
> > However, the proposed statement is a little clumsy to my eyes,
> > especially in the use of the singular verb forms to refer to the
> > plural subject "ALAC AND the At-Large Community".
> >
> > With regard to the fact that it is a vision statement of the At-Large,
> > I don't see the need to expressly include the ALAC or RALOs at all,
> > given that they are both integral parts of the Community.
> >
> > Jacqueline A. Morris
> > Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and
> > Free. (after Chris Lehmann )
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Alan Greenberg
> > <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> wrote:
> > > I'm afraid that although I have some problems
> > > with the proposed vision statement, I do not
> > > think that these changes go in the right direction. Two main reasons:
> > >
> > > - To say that the At-Large Community (and not the
> > > upper case C as per the ICANN Bylaw definition)
> > > is there to strenghten the RALOs is a largely
> > > circular definition as the RALOs are a core integral part of the ALC.
> > >
> > > - Listing that we exist to select a Board member
> > > sends a VERY wrong message in my mind. It is a
> > > perk of participating in the ICANN ecosystem, but
> > > is certainly not our raison d'être.
> > >
> > > The issue of ALAC over At-Large can be addressed
> > > by simply reversing their order.
> > >
> > > Regarding the original statement, I find
> > > "catalyzes" the perfect word here, from a point
> > > of view of meaning, but do question whether it will be as good in
> > translation.
> > >
> > > Alan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 15/05/2012 09:39 PM, Cintra Sooknanan wrote:
> > >>Hi everyone,
> > >>
> > >>Thanks for circulating this draft Vision Statement. I would have liked
> to
> > >>see a clear plain language and easily translatable Vision. Phrases
> > >>like  "brings their voice to bear in all ICANN matters" are just vague
> in
> > >>my opinion. Vision Statements must have a mechanism of measurement as
> to
> > >>whether they are being met or not and therefore must be precise.
> > >>
> > >>Also I find it is inapt for the ALAC to be the first structure
> mentioned
> > in
> > >>an At Large Vision statement. Perhaps the intention is the mix the two?
> > But
> > >>I would advise against this route, and instead suggest providing a
> Vision
> > >>Statement of ALAC separately.
> > >>
> > >>My amended proposed At-Large Vision Statement is:
> > >>
> > >>*       The At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates inclusive,
> > >>tangible and
> > >>meaningful participation of  Internet end-users worldwide in ICANN
> > matters,
> > >>particularly through its work in strengthening the RALOs, its
> > >>representation by the ALAC and its selection of the ICANN At-Large
> Board
> > >>Member.
> > >>
> > >>Kind regards
> > >>
> > >>Cintra Sooknanan
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:12 PM, ICANN At-Large Staff <
> > >>staff at atlarge.icann.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Dear All,
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > A friendly reminder that the comment period for the proposed
> At-Large
> > >> > Vision
> > >> > Statement closes on Thursday, 17 May.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > The proposed At-Large Vision Statement is:
> > >> >
> > >> > *       The ALAC and At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates
> > >> > inclusive,
> > >> > meaningful  participation of  Internet end-users world-wide,
> > aggregates
> > >> > their input and  brings their voice to bear in all ICANN matters.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Please use the comments function on this
> > >> > <https://community.icann.org/x/esPbAQ> wiki page to add any
> > suggestions or
> > >> > send your comments to At-Large Staff at:  <mailto:
> > staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> > >> > staff at atlarge.icann.org.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Regards,
> > >> >
> > >> > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, and
> > Nathalie
> > >> > Peregrine
> > >> >
> > >> > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC
> > >> >
> > >> > E-mail:  <mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org> staff at atlarge.icann.org
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > From: ICANN At-Large Staff [mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org]
> > >> > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 2:10 PM
> > >> > To: alac-announce at atlarge-lists.icann.org;
> > >> > 'afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org'; apralo; Discussion for
> > At-Large
> > >> > Europe; LACRALO discussion list; '
> lac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > ';
> > >> > NARALO Discussion List
> > >> > Cc: 'Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond'; 'Cheryl Langdon-Orr'; ICANN
> At-Large
> > Staff
> > >> > Subject: COMMENTS REQUESTED: Proposed At-Large Vision Statement
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Dear All,
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > The ALAC Improvements Review WG Final Report included a
> > recommendation that
> > >> > "the ALAC should develop strategic and operational planning
> processes
> > >> > (including performance criteria and cost information) as part of
> > ICANN's
> > >> > planning process." (Recommendation 5
> > >> > <https://community.icann.org/display/Improve/Recommendation+5> ).
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > As part of the implementation of this recommendation, the At-Large
> > >> > Improvements Implementation Work Team C created an action item to
> > >> > "articulate ALAC's and At-Large's vision and mission."
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > The At-Large Improvements Taskforce developed a proposed At-Large
> > Vision
> > >> > Statement during their meeting at the 43rd ICANN Meeting in Costa
> > Rica.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > The proposed At-Large Vision Statement is:
> > >> >
> > >> > .         The ALAC and At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates
> > >> > inclusive, meaningful  participation of  Internet end-users
> > world-wide,
> > >> > aggregates their input and  brings their voice to bear in all ICANN
> > >> > matters.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Olivier Crepin-Leblond, Chair of the ALAC, and Cheryl Langdon-Orr,
> > Chair of
> > >> > the At-Large Improvements Taskforce, have outlined the following
> next
> > steps
> > >> > for the proposed At-Large Vision Statement:
> > >> >
> > >> > .         4-17 May 2012 - This proposed At-Large Vision statement is
> > open
> > >> > for comments between 4-17 May 2012. Please use the comments function
> > on
> > >> > this
> > >> > wiki page <https://community.icann.org/x/esPbAQ>  to add any
> > suggestions
> > >> > or
> > >> > send your comments to At-Large Staff at: staff at atlarge.icann.org.
> > >> >
> > >> > .         21 May 2012 - The At-Large Improvements Taskforce will
> > review and
> > >> > incorporate comments received during their 21 May meeting.
> > >> >
> > >> > .         22 May 2012 - The ALAC will review the proposed At-Large
> > Vision
> > >> > Statement during their 22 May ALAC meeting and vote whether to
> ratify
> > it.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Regards,
> > >> >
> > >> > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, and
> > Nathalie
> > >> > Peregrine
> > >> >
> > >> > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC
> > >> >
> > >> > E-mail: staff at atlarge.icann.org
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
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