[NA-Discuss] [lac-discuss-en] REMINDER: COMMENTS REQUESTED: Proposed At-Large Vision Statement - Deadline for Comments 17 May

Fri May 18 14:32:51 UTC 2012

Y'all know I find these things gimmicky and IMHO, not worth a hill of gully
beans.

The Committee is wrong-headed on this. If you look at it, the bye-laws
state the reason and care well enough already.

We must encourage our colleagues to read some more, especially the
foundation instruments. And these labels just don't cut it!

All this aside, I cannot compete with Jacqueline's - cum Alan's - analysis.

+1.
-Carlton

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On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Jacqueline Morris <jam at jacquelinemorris.com
> wrote:

> I agree with Alan, and think  that the details of Board member
> selection and so on are not particularly suited to a vision statement.
> However, the proposed statement is a little clumsy to my eyes,
> especially in the use of the singular verb forms to refer to the
> plural subject "ALAC AND the At-Large Community".
>
> With regard to the fact that it is a vision statement of the At-Large,
> I don't see the need to expressly include the ALAC or RALOs at all,
> given that they are both integral parts of the Community.
>
> Jacqueline A. Morris
> Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and
> Free. (after Chris Lehmann )
>
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Alan Greenberg
> <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> wrote:
> > I'm afraid that although I have some problems
> > with the proposed vision statement, I do not
> > think that these changes go in the right direction. Two main reasons:
> >
> > - To say that the At-Large Community (and not the
> > upper case C as per the ICANN Bylaw definition)
> > is there to strenghten the RALOs is a largely
> > circular definition as the RALOs are a core integral part of the ALC.
> >
> > - Listing that we exist to select a Board member
> > sends a VERY wrong message in my mind. It is a
> > perk of participating in the ICANN ecosystem, but
> > is certainly not our raison d'être.
> >
> > The issue of ALAC over At-Large can be addressed
> > by simply reversing their order.
> >
> > Regarding the original statement, I find
> > "catalyzes" the perfect word here, from a point
> > of view of meaning, but do question whether it will be as good in
> translation.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
> >
> > At 15/05/2012 09:39 PM, Cintra Sooknanan wrote:
> >>Hi everyone,
> >>
> >>Thanks for circulating this draft Vision Statement. I would have liked to
> >>see a clear plain language and easily translatable Vision. Phrases
> >>like  "brings their voice to bear in all ICANN matters" are just vague in
> >>my opinion. Vision Statements must have a mechanism of measurement as to
> >>whether they are being met or not and therefore must be precise.
> >>
> >>Also I find it is inapt for the ALAC to be the first structure mentioned
> in
> >>an At Large Vision statement. Perhaps the intention is the mix the two?
> But
> >>I would advise against this route, and instead suggest providing a Vision
> >>Statement of ALAC separately.
> >>
> >>My amended proposed At-Large Vision Statement is:
> >>
> >>*       The At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates inclusive,
> >>tangible and
> >>meaningful participation of  Internet end-users worldwide in ICANN
> matters,
> >>particularly through its work in strengthening the RALOs, its
> >>representation by the ALAC and its selection of the ICANN At-Large Board
> >>Member.
> >>
> >>Kind regards
> >>
> >>Cintra Sooknanan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:12 PM, ICANN At-Large Staff <
> >>staff at atlarge.icann.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Dear All,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > A friendly reminder that the comment period for the proposed At-Large
> >> > Vision
> >> > Statement closes on Thursday, 17 May.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The proposed At-Large Vision Statement is:
> >> >
> >> > *       The ALAC and At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates
> >> > inclusive,
> >> > meaningful  participation of  Internet end-users world-wide,
> aggregates
> >> > their input and  brings their voice to bear in all ICANN matters.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Please use the comments function on this
> >> > <https://community.icann.org/x/esPbAQ> wiki page to add any
> suggestions or
> >> > send your comments to At-Large Staff at:  <mailto:
> staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> >> > staff at atlarge.icann.org.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, and
> Nathalie
> >> > Peregrine
> >> >
> >> > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC
> >> >
> >> > E-mail:  <mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org> staff at atlarge.icann.org
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From: ICANN At-Large Staff [mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org]
> >> > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 2:10 PM
> >> > To: alac-announce at atlarge-lists.icann.org;
> >> > 'afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org'; apralo; Discussion for
> At-Large
> >> > Europe; LACRALO discussion list; 'lac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> ';
> >> > NARALO Discussion List
> >> > Cc: 'Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond'; 'Cheryl Langdon-Orr'; ICANN At-Large
> Staff
> >> > Subject: COMMENTS REQUESTED: Proposed At-Large Vision Statement
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Dear All,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The ALAC Improvements Review WG Final Report included a
> recommendation that
> >> > "the ALAC should develop strategic and operational planning processes
> >> > (including performance criteria and cost information) as part of
> ICANN's
> >> > planning process." (Recommendation 5
> >> > <https://community.icann.org/display/Improve/Recommendation+5> ).
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > As part of the implementation of this recommendation, the At-Large
> >> > Improvements Implementation Work Team C created an action item to
> >> > "articulate ALAC's and At-Large's vision and mission."
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The At-Large Improvements Taskforce developed a proposed At-Large
> Vision
> >> > Statement during their meeting at the 43rd ICANN Meeting in Costa
> Rica.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The proposed At-Large Vision Statement is:
> >> >
> >> > .         The ALAC and At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates
> >> > inclusive, meaningful  participation of  Internet end-users
> world-wide,
> >> > aggregates their input and  brings their voice to bear in all ICANN
> >> > matters.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Olivier Crepin-Leblond, Chair of the ALAC, and Cheryl Langdon-Orr,
> Chair of
> >> > the At-Large Improvements Taskforce, have outlined the following next
> steps
> >> > for the proposed At-Large Vision Statement:
> >> >
> >> > .         4-17 May 2012 - This proposed At-Large Vision statement is
> open
> >> > for comments between 4-17 May 2012. Please use the comments function
> on
> >> > this
> >> > wiki page <https://community.icann.org/x/esPbAQ>  to add any
> suggestions
> >> > or
> >> > send your comments to At-Large Staff at: staff at atlarge.icann.org.
> >> >
> >> > .         21 May 2012 - The At-Large Improvements Taskforce will
> review and
> >> > incorporate comments received during their 21 May meeting.
> >> >
> >> > .         22 May 2012 - The ALAC will review the proposed At-Large
> Vision
> >> > Statement during their 22 May ALAC meeting and vote whether to ratify
> it.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, and
> Nathalie
> >> > Peregrine
> >> >
> >> > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC
> >> >
> >> > E-mail: staff at atlarge.icann.org
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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