[NA-Discuss] [ALAC] NARALO statement on pre-registration

Tue Aug 23 23:22:10 UTC 2011

Olivier wrote:

"just to let you know that I mentioned it in AOB - but there was little support from Evan, Garth or Alan."

Really? Does the NA-RALO need to have a discussion with its >elected< representatives to ALAC about what bottom-up consensus means, and about the importance of listening to your constituency?

Thanks for making me aware of this.

Beau
-----Original Message-----
>From: Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
>Sent: Aug 23, 2011 1:15 PM
>To: Beau Brendler <beaubrendler at earthlink.net>
>Cc: "Thompson,Darlene" <DThompson1 at gov.nu.ca>, ICANN AtLarge Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
>Subject: Re: [ALAC] NARALO statement on pre-registration
>
>Hello Beau,
>
>just to let you know that I mentioned it in AOB - but there was little
>support from Evan, Garth or Alan.
>I have left it at that for the time being, saying that the follow-up
>will take place on email.
>Kind regards,
>
>Olivier
>
>On 23/08/2011 15:48, Beau Brendler wrote :
>> Hello Olivier...
>>
>> We got an enthusiastic response from LAC RALO and I believe they are planning to adopt the statement.
>>
>> Wolf from EURALO likes the statement and he has passed it along to the rest of the members for consideration. 
>>
>> Nothing to my knowledge from AP or AF.
>>
>> I understand how quickly agendas can fill up. You won't hurt my feelings if it does not find a place. I can't join the call to present it in "other business" but if you have time and interest in doing that, great.
>>
>> Thanks for your support,
>>
>> Beau
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
>>> Sent: Aug 22, 2011 7:59 PM
>>> To: Beau Brendler <beaubrendler at earthlink.net>, "Thompson, Darlene" <DThompson1 at gov.nu.ca>
>>> Cc: ICANN AtLarge Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [ALAC] NARALO statement on pre-registration
>>>
>>> Hello Beau,
>>> Hello Darlene,
>>>
>>> just checking what kind of response have you been receiving for this?
>>> The ALAC call tomorrow is already way over the usual 90 Minutes, so I
>>> could not include this as a standard agenda item.
>>> Would you like to include this as an item in "Any Other Business"?
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Olivier
>>>
>>> On 08/08/2011 20:18, Beau Brendler wrote :
>>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>>
>>>> The NARALO wants to make a statement warning consumers about the issue of pre-registration. We as a region have developed a text, as follows below.
>>>>
>>>> I'm writing to ask whether the ALAC would like to endorse this statement and pass it forward to the board. It also occurs to me that it would make an excellent press release in coordination with the appropriate people. I have already done a video spot on the issue for Internet Evolution/Thinkernet, so maybe other press might have some interest.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Beau Brendler
>>>> NARALO Chair
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> The NARALO observes that at least one ICANN-accredited registrar, United Domains, is offering what it calls "Free nTLD pre-registration" (see https://www.uniteddomains.com/ntld/pre-register-new-domains). United Domains began the offer in advance of ICANN's new gTLD decision in Singapore, and it continues afterwards, in expectation of greater availability in October 2012.
>>>>
>>>> United Domains says the pre-registration service is free and non-binding. However, NARALO is concerned the offer of such a service might create consumer confusion and possibly present the opportunity for fraud. In support of this concern, we note that at least one registrar, Blacknight Solutions of Ireland, has issued a press release warning registrants to disregard any such pre-registration offers in new gTLDS, and states that the company "discovered that registrants interested in acquiring domains in rumoured new gTLDs had become confused by these offers, as they are not familiar with how the new TLD implementation might work.  This sort of speculative offer is the equivalent of taking a down payment on a concept car that has not been approved for production. It is a false promise." (June 30, 2011, http://www.prlog.org/11565814-blacknight-warn-consumers-against-new-gtld-pre-registration.html). 
>>>>
>>>> The NARALO wishes to remind ICANN that approximately 10 years ago, the announcement of pre-registration for new top-level domains (such as .aero, .coop and so-on) prompted the U.S. Federal Trade Commission to issue a consumer alert (http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/alerts/alt084.pdf) that said, in part, "Some registration services are guaranteeing new top level domain names or promising preferential treatment in the registration process....
>>>>
>>>> "But, the agency cautions, these offers may be misleading.
>>>> "The FTC advises consumers to protect themselves by: ...Avoiding any domain name pre-registration service that guarantees particular top level domain names or preferential treatment in the assignment of new top level domain names.."
>>>>
>>>> The NARALO is aware the situation is different now than it was then, and that United Domains and others provide substantial disclosure information about the nature of the pre-registration program. The NARALO also recognizes the FTC action at the time was thought by some in the Internet community to be excessive and alarmist.
>>>>
>>>> Therefore, the NARALO recommends that, through ALAC, ICANN undertake public communication that makes clear what, exactly, consumers and others might expect from "pre-registration." It should be the organization that administers the domain name system, not the agents of domain sale, who should be defining the nature of Internet "real estate" in the public interest. 
>>>>
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>>> -- 
>>> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
>>> http://www.gih.com/ocl.html
>>>
>>>
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>Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
>http://www.gih.com/ocl.html
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