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Alejandro Pisanty apisanty en gmail.com
Jue Jul 23 22:24:39 UTC 2015


Carlton,

siempre tengo presente un mensaje tuyo de 2012, un mensaje público. En ese
mensaje amenazaste "sacar sangre" - "to draw blood". Una amenaza de
violencia física como ésa no puede ser ignorada indefinidamente.

La recomendación del Ombudsman es sensata y espero no verme obligado a
hacer excepción de ella.

Alejandro Pisanty

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 5:17 PM, <carlton.samuels en gmail.com> wrote:

>
> [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]]
>
>  Asunto: Re: ??????? = UTF-8 q = C2 = C3 = = BFEs_ 27irregul
> A9ste_Tiresome_ = = = UTF-8 q = 27_Contra_Large_At-Personal aridad =
>  De: carlton.samuels en gmail.com
>
>  Alejandro:
>  Mensaje recibido por fin! La comunicación es algo cojonudo, ¿no es así?
>
>
>  Feliz recibió el mensaje.
>
>
>  Supongo que usted está siendo piadosa acerca de mi uso de la palabra
> &quot;mierda&quot;, ¿no?
>
>
>  Si es así, no pierdas el tiempo del hombre. Su significado la intención
> de que los asuntos.
>  Es por eso que deliberadamente 'cortar y pegar' el significado del
> diccionario
>  directamente desde la fuente de mi mensaje original. Aquí está otra vez:
>
>
>  * Definiciones de mierda *
>  * Sustantivo *
>  * Estúpido o hablar o escribir falsa; tonterías. *
>  * Verbo *
>  * Charla sin sentido a (alguien), normalmente para ser equívoca o
> engañosa. *
>
>
>  Dos pasos por delante de ustedes. Usted debe saber por ahora el idioma
> Inglés es
>  mi amigo. Por desgracia, no puedo hablar por españoles.
>
>
>  Liquidación: Así que ya sabes donde estoy, por favor consulte el mensaje
> privado que
>  enviado a usted en otra tal alegación hace un par de años.
>
>
>  Saludos cordiales,
>  -Carlton
>
>
>  ==============================
>  Carlton Un Samuels
>  Móvil: 876-818-1799
>  * Estrategia, Planeación, Gobierno, Evaluación y plazos de entrega *
>  =============================
>
>
>  El Jue, 23 de julio 2015 a las 4:53 de la tarde, <apisanty en gmail.com>
> escribió:
>  >
> > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]
> >
> >  Subject: Re:??????? = Utf-8 q = C2 = C3 = = BFEs_ 27irregul
> > A9ste_Tiresome_ = = = utf-8 q = 27_Contra_Large_At-Staff arity =
> >  From: apisanty en gmail.com
> >
> >  Carlton,
> >
> >
> >  I'll accept your last use of offensive language. Your next
> >  message with offensive language will be the subject of work of the
> > Ombudsman. Your
> >  It leads to unacceptable vocabulary words in Spanish.
> >
> >
> >  The conflict of interest is not Lance your business
> >  own. The conflict lies in its business representation through
> >  Camera. Some of these businesses are structural conflcto with
> >  users because users are customers of their services.
> >
> >
> >  Jacqueline, the expression of interest was modified and expanded after
> >  start the election.
> >
> >
> >  Alejandro Pisanty
> >
> >
> >  On Thu, July 23, 2015 at 4:46 PM, <carlton.samuels en gmail.com> wrote:
> >  >
> > > [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]]
> > >
> > >  Asunto: Re: ¿Es éste Tiresome 'irregularidad' Contra Large At-Staff
> > >  De: carlton.samuels en gmail.com
> > >
> > >  Mi amigo Alejando, voy a irritar un poco más con la retórica. Y
> > >  no por favor, acepto que estoy utilizando el sentido clásico
> [Inglés] de
> > > la palabra.
> > >
> > >
> > >  Lo que se alega es puramente desafortunado mierda.
> > >
> > >
> > >  Lanza Hinds se articula a la ICANN a través de un memorando de
> > > entendimiento con la ICANN y caucus con
> > >  At-Large y LACRALO como representante de DevNet; él es el Presidente
> > >  y su representante para LACRALO.
> > >
> > >
> > >  Devnet es una organización no gubernamental que provee desarrollo de
> las
> > > TIC
> > >  servicios a los que están en el lado pobre de la brecha digital.
> DevNet
> > >  thusly representa los intereses de los usuarios finales. Piense en
> > Devnet
> > > como la versión de Guyana
> > >  Internauta usarios etc etc.
> > >
> > >
> > >  El hombre es el presidente de la Cámara de Comercio de Georgetown en
> > > virtud de su
> > >  propiedad de una pequeña empresa; Tecnologías BrainStreet. Él
> deriva su
> > >  ingresos, su salario digno, principalmente de ese negocio.Él no
> consigue
> > >  pagado como Presidente de la Cámara de Comercio de Georgetown.
> > >
> > >
> > >  Aquí está el problema. No es inusual para los que estamos en el
> Caribe
> > >  tener muchas vidas; Su llamado responder al déficit de capacidad.
> decir
> > > eso
> > >  Lanza no puede ser un hombre de negocios y también representan los
> > > intereses del usuario final cuando
> > >  él es presidente de una ONG - el que a través de la que ha
> conectado a
> > la
> > > ICANN
> > >  sistema - sólo se parece delirante para algunos de nosotros.
> > >
> > >
> > >  Al menos para aquellos de nosotros en el Caribe que son voluntarios
> para
> > > una cosa
> > >  u otro.
> > >
> > >
> > >  -Carlton
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  ==============================
> > >  Carlton Un Samuels
> > >  Móvil: 876-818-1799
> > >  * Estrategia, Planeación, Gobierno, Evaluación y plazos de entrega *
> > >  =============================
> > >
> > >
> > >  El Jue, 23 de julio 2015 a las 4:20 de la tarde, el Dr. Alejandro
> > Pisanty
> > > Baruch &lt;
> > >  apisan en unam.mx&gt; escribió:
> > >
> > >
> > > >  Carlton,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  The issue is very simple. A number of us find an irreconcilable
> > conflict
> > > > of interest in Lance Hinds's SoI. This is apparent only once the
> > election
> > > > was in course.
> > > >
> > > >  Simple. No rhetoric needed.
> > > >
> > > >  Alejandro Pisanty
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > > >      Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
> > > > Facultad de Química UNAM
> > > > Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > > +525541444475 DESDE MÉXICO SMS +525541444475
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> > > >   ------------------------------
> > > > *Desde:* lac-discuss-en-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org [
> > > > lac-discuss-en-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org] en nombre de Carlton
> > > > Samuels [carlton.samuels en gmail.com]
> > > > *Enviado el:* jueves, 23 de julio de 2015 16:03
> > > > *Hasta:* lac-discuss-en en atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > > > *CC:* Albert Daniels
> > > > *Asunto:* [lac-discuss-en] This Tiresome 'Irregularity' Claim Against
> > > > At-Large Staff
> > > >
> > > >    I am trying to live a long and useful life. Engagement with
> LACRALO
> > is
> > > > debilitating.
> > > >
> > > >  I am not communicant - I gave it up since I was 14 years old - so
> > cannot
> > > > depend on a 'good' God for my salvation. So for objective, I do what
> I
> > > must
> > > > by avoiding vexations to my spirit.
> > > >
> > > >  But the bullshit - I hope the word translates well to Spanish - is
> > just
> > > > too much and I must break my silence.
> > > >
> > > >  In case the translation gets mangled, here is what I mean by
> bullshit:
> > > >
> > > >   Definitions of bullshit
> > > >   noun
> > > >  stupid or untrue talk or writing; nonsense.
> > > >  verb
> > > >  talk nonsense to (someone), typically to be misleading or deceptive.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >     ​It is misleading, even dishonest, to allege misconduct by
> > At-Large
> > > > staff in this instance and I will tell you why.
> > > >
> > > >  Jacqueline has already pithily outlined the classic case but I will
> > > > repeat it here for effect.
> > > >
> > > >  In parts of the world where rules for [s]elections are established
> and
> > > > where this exercise of democracy is routine, a candidate satisfying
> all
> > > > other criteria and nominated for a position unopposed is duly
> > > [s]elected. ​
> > > >
> > > >  But this is LACRALO where our collective understanding of the
> process
> > > > is, well, let me be generous and say uneven, at best.
> > > >
> > > >  We simply don't understand that you cannot disavow or subvert the
> > > > nomination portion of the process without calling the entire
> > [s]election
> > > > process into question.
> > > >
> > > >  So, we walk extra miles to give those who don't understand time to
> > come
> > > > along, slowly.  That is the basis for the consensus poll - notice it
> > is a
> > > > poll - and why we in the Caribbean bothered to go along with that in
> > the
> > > > first place!
> > > >
> > > >  As At-Large staff would have told all of you, this is not the same
> for
> > > > other RALOs. They have matured in both thought and action.
> > > >
> > > >  Why does this bother me, you ask? Because it gets old and tiresome
> > after
> > > > trying for so long. And since it vexes my spirit, I run the real risk
> > of
> > > > reducing my life and its quality the longer I caucus here.
> > > >
> > > >  Now, to the hypocrites.  I ask your forgiveness for not being a good
> > > > Christian. I simply detest hypocrisy.
> > > >
> > > >  In the selection for a NomCom candidate this year, our esteemed
> > > > colleague from Brazil and incumbent, Sylvia Leite Herlein, was
> > nominated
> > > > unopposed.  I enthusiastically supported her candidacy, not just only
> > for
> > > > the fact she had performed in the post. But I truly believe that a
> > single
> > > > 1-year term does not give the region the benefit of her service and
> > > > expertise nor allow the region to build the influence we need in very
> > > > important ICANN councils.
> > > >
> > > >  I personally discouraged - yes, discouraged - other nominations to
> > muddy
> > > > the path to her re-selection. We went along with Jacqueline Morris
> > being
> > > > de-selected after a single year. Maybe that was the wrong thing to do
> > > then.
> > > >
> > > >  With Sylvia's unopposed [s]election, no consensus poll took place.
> > And
> > > > the At-Large staff notified the world in the same way as they did for
> > > Lance
> > > > Hinds.
> > > >
> > > >  It was not that we in the Caribbean did not notice. Rather, it is
> > > > because we have never felt any such poll was necessary in the first
> > > place.
> > > >
> > > >  Contrast then to now. There was not a whimper of complaint from our
> > now
> > > > erstwhile friends of LACRALO propriety, not one allegation of
> > > 'impropriety'
> > > > raised!
> > > >
> > > >  So now, I ask you, what is the difference here? We can either assume
> > the
> > > > guardians of LACRALO propriety were off busily thumb-sucking, even
> > asleep
> > > > at the switch.
> > > >
> > > >  Or, in this case for Lance Hinds nomination and selection, other
> > > > operating conditions are applied.
> > > >
> > > >  Go figure.
> > > >
> > > >  -Carlton Samuels
> > > >
> > > >  ==============================
> > > >  Carlton A Samuels
> > > > Mobile: 876-818-1799
> > > > *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround*
> > > > =============================
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
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