[lac-discuss-en] [ALAC] IO recommends .amazon reconsideration

[Evan Leibovitch]

I think we're getting caught up on the details, not the general concept. I apologize for not being sufficiently inclusive, but do not wish that error to obscure the broader point. 

If the original email had said nine countries instead of five, how would your response have changed? What are the substantive objections? 

(And please note that I'm not advancing this as a perfect answer... just suggesting it as a middle ground that both sides find somewhat sub-optimal, but less painful than ongoing  expensive battles.) 

-Evan 


On Jul 21, 2017, 17:19, at 17:19, Ricardo Holmquist <rihogris at gmail.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>I do not share the solution given, but further than that, it contains
>geographical mistakes, my country is not being included in the list of
>the
>five countries, because this person is supposing it only has to do with
>the
>river, and for us is also the forest, where we have about 25% of our
>territory. The State where the Amazon jungle is located is called
>Amazonas,
>and is not being included in the 3 countries with territories called
>Amazonas.
>
>Best
>
>Ricardo Holmquist
>ISOC Venezuela
>
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>2017-07-21 15:28 GMT-05:00 Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org>:
>
>> I read on a Facebook group, from Barry Shein, an imaginative and IMO
>> effective resolution to the .amazon issue. I offer it here with some
>> personal suggestions added regarding to 'what comes next':
>>
>> Amazon pays for the creation of the ".amazonas" TLD, and entrusts it
>to a
>> nonprofit whose stakeholders are exclusively from the five countries
>(Brazil,
>> Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia) through which the river runs. Such
>> stakeholders could be government, NGO or private. In return, the GAC
>> rescinds its objection to .amazon.
>>
>> (Alternatively, dot-amazonas could be entrusted to the three regional
>> governments -- in Peru, Colombia and Brazil -- that are named
>"Amazonas".)
>>
>> After all, "Amazonas" is the local name for the river in both Spanish
>and
>> Portuguese. Since elsewhere governments are turning to local names
>rather
>> than anglicized ones -- think Beijing, Iqaluit or Bengaluru --
>wouldn't
>> this be a Good Thing and a reasonable answer to both the governments
>and
>> the bookstore?
>>
>> Such an offer would dull most of the logical objection to the
>bookstore's
>> desire for the name, while calling on the affected countries to
>actually
>> indicate what they would do with an appropriate TLD, or at least to
>reserve
>> it for future use.
>>
>> Would such a compromise be workable? Or would it cause a problem by
>> putting the current objectors on the spot regarding what they would
>do with
>> the TLD themselves?
>>
>> (Perhaps this re-opens a wider problem with geoTLD names, wondering
>if
>> every possible linguistic name for countries and regions are
>deserving of
>> protection. I mean, do we need to protect "Schweiz", "Suisse",
>"Svizzera",
>> "Svizra", "Helvetia" AND "Switzerland"?)
>>
>> - Evan
>>
>>
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