<html><head></head><body><div dir="auto">I think we're getting caught up on the details, not the general concept. I apologize for not being sufficiently inclusive, but do not wish that error to obscure the broader point. <br><br></div>
<div dir="auto">If the original email had said nine countries instead of five, how would your response have changed? What are the substantive objections? <br><br></div>
<div dir="auto">(And please note that I'm not advancing this as a perfect answer... just suggesting it as a middle ground that both sides find somewhat sub-optimal, but less painful than ongoing expensive battles.) <br><br></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote" >On Jul 21, 2017, at 17:19, Ricardo Holmquist <<a href="mailto:rihogris@gmail.com" target="_blank">rihogris@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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I read on a Facebook group, from Barry Shein, an imaginative and IMO effective resolution to the .amazon issue. I offer it here with some personal suggestions added regarding to 'what comes next':
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<font color="#0b5394" face="tahoma, sans-serif">Amazon pays for the creation of the ".amazonas" TLD, and entrusts it to a nonprofit whose stakeholders are exclusively from the five countries </font>
<font color="#0b5394">(Brazil, Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia) through which the river runs. Such stakeholders could be government, NGO or private. In return, the GAC rescinds its objection to .amazon.</font>
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<font color="#0b5394">(Alternatively, dot-amazonas could be entrusted to the three regional governments -- in Peru, Colombia and Brazil -- that are named "Amazonas".)</font>
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<font color="#0b5394">After all, "Amazonas" is the local name for the river in both Spanish and Portuguese. Since elsewhere governments are turning to local names rather than anglicized ones -- think Beijing, Iqaluit or Bengaluru -- wouldn't this be a Good Thing and a reasonable answer to both the governments and the bookstore?</font>
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<font color="#0b5394">Such an offer would dull most of the logical objection to the bookstore's desire for the name, while calling on the affected countries to actually indicate what they would do with an appropriate TLD, or at least to reserve it for future use.</font>
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<font color="#0b5394">(Perhaps this re-opens a wider problem with geoTLD names, wondering if every possible linguistic name for countries and regions are deserving of protection. I mean, do we need to protect "<span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px">Schweiz", "</span><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px">Suisse", "</span><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px">Svizzera", "</span><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px">Svizra", "Helvetia" AND "Switzerland"?)</span></font>
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