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[bronstein.sergio at gmail.com]

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 From: bronstein.sergio at gmail.com

 Good evening Friend s civil society 
 I am not clear when it was coined the concept of "civil society), but 
 I consider it necessary to clarify that its use is installed and runs with the advance 
 of neoliberalism in the world (in the early 80s). I mean 
 specifically the attempt to dismantle and transfer states 
 responsibilities and capabilities of non-governmental organizations, as 
 so-called "civil socedad". 


 Today, the "civil society" concept can protect (and even worse, put in 
 the same level), the Ronald McDonald Foundation or Philanthropic Society 
 Microsof (I just invented), an association of end users. Y 
 for the purposes of this conversation I wonder if that's good or used to 
 something.


 What's more, in-person we are today Lacralo ALS (widespread 
 from the origins of Icann) to real institutions 
 representing interest groups. 


 I think we should give weight Lacralo hierarchy and organizations 
 effectively they are representing end users. In fact, in some 
 discussions within Icann, a group of us have ALS 
 expressed the need to replicate in Icann what is being done 
 in World NET it is to a particular space and decision making 
 autonomous associations of users. 


 I also believe that when it comes to accepting new members, should 
 investigate in depth what interests represented by each candidateado, so 
 how to sign to each Member an affidavit of no 
 commitment to individual, corporate or government interests and whose 
 noncompliance involving withdraw them. We can not allow us 
 filtered organizations opposed to the interests of users.


 I think the proposal of Carlos Aguirre approaches these views, 
 in the sense that should not belong assert or defend interests 
 to different users. It reads: "Civil Society, it is composed 
 for those who do not belong to the academy, the technical sector, 
 business and governments. Likewise also they integrate civil society 
 those whose interests are different from the interests of the latter 
 sectors mentioned in the previous paragraph. " 


 I hope I have contributed to a reflection, in my consideration, should 
 You become part of the work on "Metric" in the aspect of who should 
 to size. 


 Hugs to everyone s, 


 Sergio Bronstein 
 Vice president 
 Internauta Venezuela 






 On October 6, 2015, 5:46, Antonio Medina Gomez <amedinagomez at gmail.com>
 wrote: 


> Apreciado Alberto buenos días.
> Te solicité una información y quedaste de contestar ayer y veo que no hay
> respuesta todavía.
> Estamos atentos a su comunicación.
> Cordial saludo
> Antonio Medina
> ACUI
> El 02/10/2015 19:39, "Alberto Soto" <asoto at ibero-americano.org> escribió:
>
>> Estimados, en varios grupos de trabajo de distintos niveles, se está
>> discutiendo sobre quienes componen la Sociedad Civil.
>>
>> Me interesa la opinión de LACRALO, en particular comparando la actual
>> estructura del ecosistema de ICANN.
>>
>> Para ello sugiero que veamos dentro de ese ecosistema, o  luego de la
>> transición IANA completada, donde quedarán nuestros representados, los
>> usuarios finales de Internet.
>>
>> Tengamos en cuenta que esto es la proposición de una modificación a
>> políticas existentes o a lanzar una nueva política.
>>
>> Tengo varias reuniones periódicamente, y no deseo dar mi opinión personal
>> sin consultarlos.
>>
>> Como Presidente de LACRALO, debería llevar la opinión de nuestra Región.
>>
>>
>>
>> Saludos cordiales
>>
>>
>>
>> Alberto Soto
>>
>>
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