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 From: fatimacambronero at gmail.com

 Alberto, 


 Several points for comments and / or reflection: 


 1. A lounge is a place to discuss policies. Fellow who has been 
 and has worked with Janice in the lounge of the newcomers know that 
 Space is the place to "sell" what you are representing, say what 
 that is being done, and share their appeal for more people to join 
 and participate. In the case of Fellows that was easy to do, I'm not so 
 Secure it with the LACRALO. 


 2. The policies are discussed in work lists in groups 
 work and / or monthly calls. Having mentioned that report 
 Alexander, would have served not only to show the community what 
 we have been doing in terms of policies, but also as a 
 kind of metrics of our ALS.
 According to my understanding, in the meetings of the Chairs and Secretaries 
 THIN, everyone was going to take a report on these issues. Is not it? Of what 
 Reports are made at these meetings / calls? 
 He understood that now should have been just a "copy and paste" to have 
 ready that report and share with all our RALO. 


 Moreover, in my case I have asked many times you add in the 
 agenda calls LACRALO monthly dedicated to a point 
 policies -in what was working, what comments were made, what 
 comentartios were open, etc., not only but also ALAC 
 LACRALO. 
 As time has gone past the point of policies at the end of the agenda 
 if not it was time to review the point-to eliminárselo 
 definitely on the agenda of our monthly calls. 
 In my opinion, that directly undermines the ability we have or 
 We had to produce comments and participate in the discussion of policies. 
 Adding that when comments are requested-I've done infinities 
 times-no answer. Or no one.And it is not possible that the agenda 
 RALO a whole is marked by the opinion of a single ALS. 
 Among the LACRALO operating principles it states that "operate by 
 consensus. "And that consensus involves more than one ALS reviewing and obviously 
 discussing. Unfortunately that is not happening in LACRALO. 


 3. I understand that as you say it has been hard work and that is 
 You can notice. However in recent times the job has not been on 
 substantive issues. I also understand that not everyone can be in 
 possibilities to contribute to substantive issues or policies. But, 2, 3, or 4 
 ALS-being generously participating in 44, 45 ALS in our RALO, right 
 It implies that something we are failing? 


 It is clear that we all do volunteer work in LACRALO and 
 At-Large and we have other major works. However, when we 
 we certify as ALS assume a commitment, get involved, of 
 participate, to "represent". Perhaps in this ICANN meeting in our 
 region is an opportune time to review that commitment. 


 4.One of the reasons many times and many people were held 
 to express their lack of participation was the lack of training. Not 
 I think there have been earlier in the history of many ICANN Webinars 
 as in recent times. Just check the list of those attending 
 Webinars to support argument goes, with that lack of training is 
 excuse. There overabundance of training and yet not 
 advantage. 


 5. LACRALO has pioneered many issues and activities that have then been 
 followed by other RALO. Perhaps we now serve us, identify 
 thinning that is more involved and more involved in substantive matters, and 
 see if we can copy them we who helped them to them. 


 There are many ways for us to review, analyze, and discuss, through 
 the list in the next monthly call or those present at the meeting 
 Buenos Aires. 
 In my opinion, it would be very healthy for our THIN get out of this 
 well sort of stagnation in which we are left, for 
 the policies.


 Best regards, 
 Fatima Cambronero 


 The June 16, 2015, 20:12, Alberto Soto <asoto at ibero-americano.org>
 He wrote: 


> Alejandro y todos, estoy tomando todas las sugerencias recibidas, pero si
> observas un poco, verás que tampoco he tenido tiempo. Estoy también
> colaborando en otras cosas para ICANN 53. Intentaré concretar lo que pides.
> Quizás con ese informe que sugeriste se pueda notar la cantidad de trabajo
> y participación que estamos realizando.
>
> El LAC Space puede contener discusiones, así que tomaremos ese tema.
>
> También me gustaría que cuando pido opinión, recibir algo más que una,
> porque debo tomarla y tratar de ejecutarla.
>
> Respecto del MOU, como lamentablemente ya no podremos firmarlo en Buenos
> Aires, podemos esperar hasta después de ICANN 53, con un informe sobre el
> mismo en nuestra próxima reunión mensual.
>
> Saludos cordiales
>
>
>
> Alberto Soto
>
>
>
> *De:* Alejandro Pisanty [mailto:apisanty at gmail.com]
> *Enviado el:* martes, 16 de junio de 2015 09:47 p.m.
> *Para:* Alberto Soto
> *CC:* LACRALO Español
> *Asunto:* Re: [lac-discuss-es] Importante sobre la transición IANA
>
>
>
> Alberto,
>
>
>
> si el LAC Space es nuestra sala de visitas sugiero que no. Si es el
> espacio de discusión absolutamente sí.
>
>
>
> Por cierto no has procesado mi moción de consultar las precauciones acerca
> de un modelo de membresía, para el cual ya cuentas con un borrador, ya
> cuentas con varias opiniones afines, y ésta es la tercera vez que te lo
> solicito formalmente.
>
>
>
> Por mi parte me señalo por retraso en el armado en un solo documento de un
> borrador del convenio con LACNIC que ya está en un estado avanzado de
> negociación. Retraso que atribuyo a cargas innesperadas de trabajo y a
> ineficiencias del sistema a mi alrededor pero no me eximen. ¿Quieren tú o
> Antonio Medina tomar esta tarea con todos los elementos que el Grupo de
> Trabajo ya conoce, o me esperas al fin de semana?
>
>
>
> Slaudo a todos.
>
>
>
> Alejandro Pisanty
>
>
>
> 2015-06-16 19:33 GMT-05:00 Alberto Soto <asoto at ibero-americano.org>:
>
> El tema que abordamos hace pocos días y en el que tenemos que seguir
> avanzando. Quizás debe ser el segundo tema en las dos horas del  lunes 22
> en LAC Space.
>
> Por cortesía de Rinalia:
>
>
>
>
> http://www.ntia.doc.gov/blog/2015/stakeholder-proposals-come-together-icann-meeting-argentina
>
>
>
>
>
> Saludos cordiales
>
>
>
> Alberto Soto
>
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