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 From: chris.lahatte at icann.org

 May I ask That parties do address the issues. I think there are some strong views, but there is a poll in progress, and Perhaps waiting for esta to be completed May be the best course at present. If the issues are Discussed Then we can abandon the stronger language used. If anyone does want to reach out to me please do so however. 

 Regards 

 Sent from my iPad 

 On 07/24/2015, at 9:54 a.m., Alejandro Pisanty <apisanty at gmail.com<mailto:apisanty at gmail.com> &gt; Wrote: 

 Carlton, 

 I will accept for the last time your use of offensive language. Your message with offensive language sermateria work of the Ombudsman. Your vocabulary is translated to unacceptable words in Spanish. 

 The conflict of interest of Lance does not come from their own business.The conflict lies in its representation of businesses through the Chamber. Some of these businesses are structural conflcto with users because users are customers of their services. 

 Jacqueline, the expression of interest was modified and extended after the election began. 

 Alejandro Pisanty 

 On Thu, July 23, 2015 at 4:46 PM, <carlton.samuels at gmail.com<mailto:carlton.samuels at gmail.com> &gt; Wrote: 

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 Subject: Re: Tiresome ste 'irregularity' Against At-Large Staff 
 From: carlton.samuels at gmail.com <mailto:carlton.samuels at gmail.com>

 My friend Alexander, will irritate a little more with the rhetoric. Y 
 no please, I accept that I am using the classical sense [english] word. 

 What is alleged is purely unfortunate shit. 

 Lance Hinds is articulated ICANN through a memorandum of understanding with ICANN and caucus with 
 At-Large and LACRALO as representative of DevNet; He is the President 
 and its representative for LACRALO. 

 DEVNET is a nongovernmental organization that provides ICT development 
 services to the poor who are in the side of the digital divide. DevNet 
 thusly it represents the interests of end users. Think like version DEVNET Guyana 
 Users surfer etc etc. 

 Man is the president of the Georgetown Chamber of Commerce under its 
 ownership of a small business; BrainStreet technologies. l derives its 
 income, living wage, especially that negocio.l fails 
 paid as President of the Georgetown Chamber of Commerce. 

 Aquestel problem. It is not unusual for those of us in the Caribbean 
 have many lives; His call to respond to capacity deficit.say that 
 Lanza can not be a businessman and also represent the interests of the end user when 
 l is president of an NGO - through which to that connected the ICANN 
 system - only it seems delusional to some of us. 

 At least for those of us in the Caribbean who volunteer for one thing 
 or another. 

 -Carlton 

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 Thu, July 23, 2015 at 4:20 pm, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch &lt; 
 apisan at unam.mx <mailto:apisan at unam.mx> &gt; Wrote: 

>  Carlton,
>
>
>  The issue is very simple. A number of us find an irreconcilable conflict
> of interest in Lance Hinds's SoI. This is apparent only once the election
> was in course.
>
>  Simple. No rhetoric needed.
>
>  Alejandro Pisanty
>
>
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> *Desde:* lac-discuss-en-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> [
> lac-discuss-en-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>] en nombre de Carlton
> Samuels [carlton.samuels at gmail.com<mailto:carlton.samuels at gmail.com>]
> *Enviado el:* jueves, 23 de julio de 2015 16:03
> *Hasta:* lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> *CC:* Albert Daniels
> *Asunto:* [lac-discuss-en] This Tiresome 'Irregularity' Claim Against
> At-Large Staff
>
>    I am trying to live a long and useful life. Engagement with LACRALO is
> debilitating.
>
>  I am not communicant - I gave it up since I was 14 years old - so cannot
> depend on a 'good' God for my salvation. So for objective, I do what I must
> by avoiding vexations to my spirit.
>
>  But the bullshit - I hope the word translates well to Spanish - is just
> too much and I must break my silence.
>
>  In case the translation gets mangled, here is what I mean by bullshit:
>
>   Definitions of bullshit
>   noun
>  stupid or untrue talk or writing; nonsense.
>  verb
>  talk nonsense to (someone), typically to be misleading or deceptive.
>
>
>     â€‹It is misleading, even dishonest, to allege misconduct by At-Large
> staff in this instance and I will tell you why.
>
>  Jacqueline has already pithily outlined the classic case but I will
> repeat it here for effect.
>
>  In parts of the world where rules for [s]elections are established and
> where this exercise of democracy is routine, a candidate satisfying all
> other criteria and nominated for a position unopposed is duly [s]elected. â€‹
>
>  But this is LACRALO where our collective understanding of the process
> is, well, let me be generous and say uneven, at best.
>
>  We simply don't understand that you cannot disavow or subvert the
> nomination portion of the process without calling the entire [s]election
> process into question.
>
>  So, we walk extra miles to give those who don't understand time to come
> along, slowly.  That is the basis for the consensus poll - notice it is a
> poll - and why we in the Caribbean bothered to go along with that in the
> first place!
>
>  As At-Large staff would have told all of you, this is not the same for
> other RALOs. They have matured in both thought and action.
>
>  Why does this bother me, you ask? Because it gets old and tiresome after
> trying for so long. And since it vexes my spirit, I run the real risk of
> reducing my life and its quality the longer I caucus here.
>
>  Now, to the hypocrites.  I ask your forgiveness for not being a good
> Christian. I simply detest hypocrisy.
>
>  In the selection for a NomCom candidate this year, our esteemed
> colleague from Brazil and incumbent, Sylvia Leite Herlein, was nominated
> unopposed.  I enthusiastically supported her candidacy, not just only for
> the fact she had performed in the post. But I truly believe that a single
> 1-year term does not give the region the benefit of her service and
> expertise nor allow the region to build the influence we need in very
> important ICANN councils.
>
>  I personally discouraged - yes, discouraged - other nominations to muddy
> the path to her re-selection. We went along with Jacqueline Morris being
> de-selected after a single year. Maybe that was the wrong thing to do then.
>
>  With Sylvia's unopposed [s]election, no consensus poll took place.  And
> the At-Large staff notified the world in the same way as they did for Lance
> Hinds.
>
>  It was not that we in the Caribbean did not notice. Rather, it is
> because we have never felt any such poll was necessary in the first place.
>
>  Contrast then to now. There was not a whimper of complaint from our now
> erstwhile friends of LACRALO propriety, not one allegation of 'impropriety'
> raised!
>
>  So now, I ask you, what is the difference here? We can either assume the
> guardians of LACRALO propriety were off busily thumb-sucking, even asleep
> at the switch.
>
>  Or, in this case for Lance Hinds nomination and selection, other
> operating conditions are applied.
>
>  Go figure.
>
>  -Carlton Samuels
>
>  ==============================
>  Carlton A Samuels
> Mobile: 876-818-1799
> *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround*
> =============================
>
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