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Carlton Samuels carlton.samuels at gmail.com
Thu Jul 23 22:15:18 UTC 2015 

Alejandro:
Message received at last!  Communication is a helluva thing, isn't it?

Happy you got the message.

I assume you are being pious about my use of the word 'bullshit', no?

If so, don't waste the man's time. Its the meaning intended that matters.
Which is why I deliberately 'cut and pasted' the dictionary meaning
straight from source for my original message.  Here it is again:

*Definitions of bullshit*
*noun*
*stupid or untrue talk or writing; nonsense.*
*verb*
*talk nonsense to (someone), typically to be misleading or deceptive.*

Two steps ahead of you here. You should know by now the English language is
my friend. Unfortunately, I cannot speak for Spanish.

Closeout: So you know where I stand, please refer the private message I
sent to you on another such allegation a couple years ago.

Kindest regards,
-Carlton

==============================
Carlton A Samuels
Mobile: 876-818-1799
*Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround*
=============================

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 4:53 PM, <apisanty at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]
>
>  Subject: Re:??????? = Utf-8 q = C2 = C3 = = BFEs_ 27irregul
> A9ste_Tiresome_ = = = utf-8 q = 27_Contra_Large_At-Staff arity =
>  From: apisanty at gmail.com
>
>  Carlton,
>
>
>  I'll accept your last use of offensive language. Your next
>  message with offensive language will be the subject of work of the
> Ombudsman. Your
>  It leads to unacceptable vocabulary words in Spanish.
>
>
>  The conflict of interest is not Lance your business
>  own. The conflict lies in its business representation through
>  Camera. Some of these businesses are structural conflcto with
>  users because users are customers of their services.
>
>
>  Jacqueline, the expression of interest was modified and expanded after
>  start the election.
>
>
>  Alejandro Pisanty
>
>
>  On Thu, July 23, 2015 at 4:46 PM, <carlton.samuels at gmail.com> wrote:
>  >
> > [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]]
> >
> >  Asunto: Re: ¿Es éste Tiresome 'irregularidad' Contra Large At-Staff
> >  De: carlton.samuels at gmail.com
> >
> >  Mi amigo Alejando, voy a irritar un poco más con la retórica. Y
> >  no por favor, acepto que estoy utilizando el sentido clásico [Inglés] de
> > la palabra.
> >
> >
> >  Lo que se alega es puramente desafortunado mierda.
> >
> >
> >  Lanza Hinds se articula a la ICANN a través de un memorando de
> > entendimiento con la ICANN y caucus con
> >  At-Large y LACRALO como representante de DevNet; él es el Presidente
> >  y su representante para LACRALO.
> >
> >
> >  Devnet es una organización no gubernamental que provee desarrollo de las
> > TIC
> >  servicios a los que están en el lado pobre de la brecha digital. DevNet
> >  thusly representa los intereses de los usuarios finales. Piense en
> Devnet
> > como la versión de Guyana
> >  Internauta usarios etc etc.
> >
> >
> >  El hombre es el presidente de la Cámara de Comercio de Georgetown en
> > virtud de su
> >  propiedad de una pequeña empresa; Tecnologías BrainStreet. Él deriva su
> >  ingresos, su salario digno, principalmente de ese negocio.Él no consigue
> >  pagado como Presidente de la Cámara de Comercio de Georgetown.
> >
> >
> >  Aquí está el problema. No es inusual para los que estamos en el Caribe
> >  tener muchas vidas; Su llamado responder al déficit de capacidad. decir
> > eso
> >  Lanza no puede ser un hombre de negocios y también representan los
> > intereses del usuario final cuando
> >  él es presidente de una ONG - el que a través de la que ha conectado a
> la
> > ICANN
> >  sistema - sólo se parece delirante para algunos de nosotros.
> >
> >
> >  Al menos para aquellos de nosotros en el Caribe que son voluntarios para
> > una cosa
> >  u otro.
> >
> >
> >  -Carlton
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  ==============================
> >  Carlton Un Samuels
> >  Móvil: 876-818-1799
> >  * Estrategia, Planeación, Gobierno, Evaluación y plazos de entrega *
> >  =============================
> >
> >
> >  El Jue, 23 de julio 2015 a las 4:20 de la tarde, el Dr. Alejandro
> Pisanty
> > Baruch &lt;
> >  apisan at unam.mx&gt; escribió:
> >
> >
> > >  Carlton,
> > >
> > >
> > >  The issue is very simple. A number of us find an irreconcilable
> conflict
> > > of interest in Lance Hinds's SoI. This is apparent only once the
> election
> > > was in course.
> > >
> > >  Simple. No rhetoric needed.
> > >
> > >  Alejandro Pisanty
> > >
> > >
> > >  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > >      Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
> > > Facultad de Química UNAM
> > > Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > +52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD
> > >
> > > +525541444475 DESDE MÉXICO SMS +525541444475
> > > Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com
> > > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty
> > > Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn,
> > > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614
> > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty
> > > ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org
> > > .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
> > >   ------------------------------
> > > *Desde:* lac-discuss-en-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [
> > > lac-discuss-en-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] en nombre de Carlton
> > > Samuels [carlton.samuels at gmail.com]
> > > *Enviado el:* jueves, 23 de julio de 2015 16:03
> > > *Hasta:* lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > > *CC:* Albert Daniels
> > > *Asunto:* [lac-discuss-en] This Tiresome 'Irregularity' Claim Against
> > > At-Large Staff
> > >
> > >    I am trying to live a long and useful life. Engagement with LACRALO
> is
> > > debilitating.
> > >
> > >  I am not communicant - I gave it up since I was 14 years old - so
> cannot
> > > depend on a 'good' God for my salvation. So for objective, I do what I
> > must
> > > by avoiding vexations to my spirit.
> > >
> > >  But the bullshit - I hope the word translates well to Spanish - is
> just
> > > too much and I must break my silence.
> > >
> > >  In case the translation gets mangled, here is what I mean by bullshit:
> > >
> > >   Definitions of bullshit
> > >   noun
> > >  stupid or untrue talk or writing; nonsense.
> > >  verb
> > >  talk nonsense to (someone), typically to be misleading or deceptive.
> > >
> > >
> > >     ​It is misleading, even dishonest, to allege misconduct by
> At-Large
> > > staff in this instance and I will tell you why.
> > >
> > >  Jacqueline has already pithily outlined the classic case but I will
> > > repeat it here for effect.
> > >
> > >  In parts of the world where rules for [s]elections are established and
> > > where this exercise of democracy is routine, a candidate satisfying all
> > > other criteria and nominated for a position unopposed is duly
> > [s]elected. ​
> > >
> > >  But this is LACRALO where our collective understanding of the process
> > > is, well, let me be generous and say uneven, at best.
> > >
> > >  We simply don't understand that you cannot disavow or subvert the
> > > nomination portion of the process without calling the entire
> [s]election
> > > process into question.
> > >
> > >  So, we walk extra miles to give those who don't understand time to
> come
> > > along, slowly.  That is the basis for the consensus poll - notice it
> is a
> > > poll - and why we in the Caribbean bothered to go along with that in
> the
> > > first place!
> > >
> > >  As At-Large staff would have told all of you, this is not the same for
> > > other RALOs. They have matured in both thought and action.
> > >
> > >  Why does this bother me, you ask? Because it gets old and tiresome
> after
> > > trying for so long. And since it vexes my spirit, I run the real risk
> of
> > > reducing my life and its quality the longer I caucus here.
> > >
> > >  Now, to the hypocrites.  I ask your forgiveness for not being a good
> > > Christian. I simply detest hypocrisy.
> > >
> > >  In the selection for a NomCom candidate this year, our esteemed
> > > colleague from Brazil and incumbent, Sylvia Leite Herlein, was
> nominated
> > > unopposed.  I enthusiastically supported her candidacy, not just only
> for
> > > the fact she had performed in the post. But I truly believe that a
> single
> > > 1-year term does not give the region the benefit of her service and
> > > expertise nor allow the region to build the influence we need in very
> > > important ICANN councils.
> > >
> > >  I personally discouraged - yes, discouraged - other nominations to
> muddy
> > > the path to her re-selection. We went along with Jacqueline Morris
> being
> > > de-selected after a single year. Maybe that was the wrong thing to do
> > then.
> > >
> > >  With Sylvia's unopposed [s]election, no consensus poll took place.
> And
> > > the At-Large staff notified the world in the same way as they did for
> > Lance
> > > Hinds.
> > >
> > >  It was not that we in the Caribbean did not notice. Rather, it is
> > > because we have never felt any such poll was necessary in the first
> > place.
> > >
> > >  Contrast then to now. There was not a whimper of complaint from our
> now
> > > erstwhile friends of LACRALO propriety, not one allegation of
> > 'impropriety'
> > > raised!
> > >
> > >  So now, I ask you, what is the difference here? We can either assume
> the
> > > guardians of LACRALO propriety were off busily thumb-sucking, even
> asleep
> > > at the switch.
> > >
> > >  Or, in this case for Lance Hinds nomination and selection, other
> > > operating conditions are applied.
> > >
> > >  Go figure.
> > >
> > >  -Carlton Samuels
> > >
> > >  ==============================
> > >  Carlton A Samuels
> > > Mobile: 876-818-1799
> > > *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround*
> > > =============================
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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